Charter schools

[SVboy]

Mediocre performance rewarded with top level remuneration and no performance measures (accountability) to get in the way!

This equates to "appearance money" for the average school teachers but hey it's all about "participation" rather than "performance" these days, isn't it!

That what gets measured gets done, when there are no measures it's little more than participation .... everybody is happy ... no winners, just losers! (students)

Same old person whine yet again-just because you say it doesnt make it true. How would you know? You were never a teacher. If it is a mediocre education system you want,keep voting National, or national front or what ever "market driven" ideology that has you brainwashed.

[oldrider]

Settle petal it's just my opinion formed from personal experience and the fact that teachers claim skills but never put them up for appraisal against anything tangible!

[Oscar]

Settle petal it's just my opinion formed from personal experience and the fact that teachers claim skills but never put them up for appraisal against anything tangible!

I'm with you on this one.
I've had to deal with any number of "good students" who were not fit for employment.

[SVboy]

Settle petal it's just my opinion formed from personal experience and the fact that teachers claim skills but never put them up for appraisal against anything tangible!

You said yourself you have no experience with current education[and obviously very little in the past either] so how would you have a clue on how and by what criteria teacher's professional standards and competence are judged. Still being an ex-manager disappointed in the calibre of people who applied to work in what-ever job you used to do has obviously made you an educational expert. I suggest you start a charter school and show all those lefty slacker teachers how it should be done.

[Oscar]

You said yourself you have no experience with current education[and obviously very little in the past either] so how would you have a clue on how and by what criteria teacher's professional standards and competence are judged. Still being an ex-manager disappointed in the calibre of people who applied to work in what-ever job you used to do has obviously made you an educational expert. I suggest you start a charter school and show all those lefty slacker teachers how it should be done.

He's a consumer, you Muppet.
He's saying the product is unsatisfactory.
As I said previously, some students leave school proficient in everything but common sense.
You give yourself away as a teacher with the attitude that you can set your own standards whilst ignoring the job market.

[SVboy]

He's a consumer, you Muppet.
He's saying the product is unsatisfactory.
As I said previously, some students leave school proficient in everything but common sense.
You give yourself away as a teacher with the attitude that you can set your own standards whilst ignoring the job market.

Read back on his threads fool. That is only one aspect of his attempt to slag off teaching. Of course I am a teacher...why do you think I am taking the time to respond to ignorant comment? Set our own standard? What have you been smoking? Last time I checked the government set the curriculum by which we teach and the standards to which we assess.

[mashman]

He's a consumer, you Muppet.
He's saying the product is unsatisfactory.
As I said previously, some students leave school proficient in everything but common sense.
You give yourself away as a teacher with the attitude that you can set your own standards whilst ignoring the job market.

A bad workman always blames his tools.

[Oscar]

Read back on his threads fool. That is only one aspect of his attempt to slag off teaching. Of course I am a teacher...why do you think I am taking the time to respond to ignorant comment? Set our own standard? What have you been smoking? Last time I checked the government set the curriculum by which we teach and the standards to which we assess.

Firstly, I have no intention of reading all his posts.
Secondly, if you are a teacher you are failing to get your point across.
As an employer, he (and I) have every right to comment on what schools turn out.

Notwithstanding that, his comment was about assessment of teachers, which in my experience, is very hit and miss.
Have you ever seen a bad teacher dismissed?
The teaching profession has more than its share of mediocre people who know that, short of kiddy fiddling, they have a job for life.

[Oscar]

A bad workman always blames his tools.

What the fuck are you on about?
The tools in question did not get the job.

[mashman]

What the fuck are you on about?

You answered your own question dipshit.

The tools in question did not get the job.

[oldrider]

You said yourself you have no experience with current education[and obviously very little in the past either] so how would you have a clue on how and by what criteria teacher's professional standards and competence are judged. Still being an ex-manager disappointed in the calibre of people who applied to work in what-ever job you used to do has obviously made you an educational expert. I suggest you start a charter school and show all those lefty slacker teachers how it should be done.

There are non so blind as those that will not see! You are part of the problem rather than the solution!

[SVboy]

Firstly, I have no intention of reading all his posts.
Secondly, if you are a teacher you are failing to get your point across.
As an employer, he (and I) have every right to comment on what schools turn out.

Notwithstanding that, his comment was about assessment of teachers, which in my experience, is very hit and miss.
Have you ever seen a bad teacher dismissed?
The teaching profession has more than its share of mediocre people who know that, short of kiddy fiddling, they have a job for life.

Your ignorance speaks for itself. He is not an employer-perhaps once he was but he is certainly well out of touch with current education now: as are you.
You spout stereotypes with no basis in fact. In your experience, "hit and miss"? What experience-enlighten us! Of course I have seen poor teachers dismissed. Looking at the superficiality of your posts and myopic focus of them, I suggest the potential employees who failed to meet your standards may have had a lucky escape.

[Oscar]

You answered your own question dipshit.

You should stay away from idioms, you make even less sense than usual.

[Oscar]

Your ignorance speaks for itself. He is not an employer-perhaps once he was but he is certainly well out of touch with current education now: as are you.
You spout stereotypes with no basis in fact. In your experience, "hit and miss"? What experience-enlighten us! Of course I have seen poor teachers dismissed. Looking at the superficiality of your posts and myopic focus of them, I suggest the potential employees who failed to meet your standards may have had a lucky escape.

My Mother was a Teacher, my brother is a teacher and my wife is the DP of a large High School.
I was on the BOT.

I have plenty of experience.

[SVboy]

Then how can you explain your ignorant posts?