America's Cup

[pzkpfw]

It's looking more and more like the America's Cup will be decided in court.

Eh?

If Oracle win on the water, do you think the Kiwis will take it to court over something?

(I get how if it's the other way Oracle might try to fight their penalty races.)

[oldrider]

At least they tried today, to try and fail is better than never to try at all ... I'm happy with that race, the boat can still compete!

[Katman]

Eh?

If Oracle win on the water, do you think the Kiwis will take it to court over something?

(I get how if it's the other way Oracle might try to fight their penalty races.)

No, obviously if Oracle win then that's a done deal.

If NZ win either of the next two races though Oracle will no doubt head straight for court.

[Mental Trousers]

I get that there are rules and all, and the "windward boat must give way" thing must have a reason, but it seemed as much to me that Oracle steered into us as anything. Two penalties seems a bit "harsh" for that. Given the winner of the start seems to mostly win the race - it seems any down-wind boat could just "push" the upwind boat out of that start box, and guarantee the race.

Add that to the wind too high too low stuff killing 3 (or was it 4?) races we'd have won - I'm getting over it.

Sigh.


Disclaimer: I know nothing.

That's the rules of sailing. The when they're overlapped on a reach like in the start box the leeward boat has all the rights. Oracle turned and ETNZ had no choice but to get out of there. Unfortunately, they had no speed to complete a turn and Oracle got the penalty.

I must say 18 days of this is really starting to wear me out. But what a spectacle.

[oldrider]

This time .... Edit: Damn it No, totally blitzed ... in every frigging department but the start!

[Trade_nancy]

Oh fuck...

[Edbear]

Unless ETNZ have been sandbagging and deliberately losing, Oracle have the better team and will win tomorrow. They have simply been outsailing NZ. NZ are capable of winning, but Oracle are not making any mistakes and are damn fast!

[Paul in NZ]

And full credit where its due - BOTH teams have turned on a stunning spectacle... Oracle have come from behind and turned on a blinding performance that will be discussed for years... Whoever wins tomorrow will certainly be worthy holders...

[Edbear]

And full credit where its due - BOTH teams have turned on a stunning spectacle... Oracle have come from behind and turned on a blinding performance that will be discussed for years... Whoever wins tomorrow will certainly be worthy holders...

I agree, whoever wins will deserve it. But I am still of the opinion we were robbed by the rules on wind speeds and timing and would have had it a long time ago. Oracle were granted a reprieve to bring their team and boat up to match, and credit to them, they've done it.

The other point I make is that it's not really and American team is it? For all his bluster, Spittal, an Aussi, is a very good match racer and were it not for NZ input, Oracle would be nowhere near where they are now. Is there in fact an American on their boat at all?

[oldrider]

Well any other form of Americas cup racing other than these big fast out there on the edge boats will be pretty tame to watch from now on!

ETNZ can hold their heads high for their low budget effort but the Oracle team are clearly supreme now!

I still can't help hanging in there for a miracle last ditch finish tomorrow but .... fact is, it's not very likely on evidence so far!

[Gremlin]

Jumping the gun slightly, but as it stands, Oracle will likely win the final match required (if not they'd probably head to court).

The sad part about it, for me, is I think it doubtful that ETNZ would contest another cup, because the money required has got so ridiculous almost no-one can stomach it. Hell, Ellison is paying for almost the entire cup I'd imagine (paying for TV etc). Since no other team is really competitive either, it would either be someone buying the NZ setup, or another cup not taking place...

[jellywrestler]

Unless ETNZ have been sandbagging and deliberately losing,

you really have lost the plot; utterly and completely Ed!!!!

[Edbear]

you really have lost the plot; utterly and completely Ed!!!!

LOL!!! Maybe, that was somewhat tongue in cheek, but reality is they are not going to win on their current form.

[Paul in NZ]

LOL!!! Maybe, that was somewhat tongue in cheek, but reality is they are not going to win on their current form.

They probably need one of your flash batteries Ed....

[Edbear]

They probably need one of your flash batteries Ed....

Yeah, they certainly need some kind of a charge up! I'd actually be interested in knowing what battereis they are using. I doubt they'd use lead acid, for sure.