Upgrade advice: Thoughts on these super sports bikes?

[pratik8890]

Do yourself a favor and at lest consider the Triumph Speed Triple.

It doesn't have the HP of most of the list but the perfectly placed tourqe makes it more useable in everyday conditions.

The only other bike on the list I've actually ridden is the R1 from about 02.

I got off it thinking I want one,,but I'm gonn'a die,,,but I still wouldn't mind one.

The Triumph I got off thinking I want I want I want,and I still want.

In fact there's a bloody good chance a Speedy will be my next bike.

Thank you for the feedback. I think Triumph speed triple are mean bikes but i'm more into Sportsbike and they're more like a street ones and I've always been a fan of R1, they're wicked both on tracks on on road. I'm looking for a decent on on trademewhich will be 2008 + model but cant find the right one at this stage.

[pratik8890]

You have listed so many widely varied options, you clearly don't actually know what you want or need. Test a few, decide on a particular platform, then go looking.


For a Busa!!!!!!!!!!!

Yip but they are the one I like the most and I've always been into sportsbike ever since I was a kid so they appeal a lot to me. And yes you are right so I will be doing some test rides oce I come across the right bike for sale on trademe and Yes Busa is the Boss!!!

[pratik8890]

This is soon to be a collectors item. Keep it stock and you should get a big pay out from it
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-652278949.htm

Could be worth a bid. Chuck 7.5k on it
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-653432565.htm

I've actually come across this 08' model on Trademe which comes in Orange and Black which is my fav color of them and the asking price is 12.5 k and the bike has done 27k. its also in excellent condition so yeah I'll just wait for sometime before I can negotiate about the price.

P.S- The only thing i dont like on them is the big bulky silence but this ones comes with Yoshmira and they look alright on them.

[pratik8890]

[QUOTE=tigertim20;1130629780]since everyone else has lready told you youll die, Ill take the other path. if youve decided what you want, youre going to do it anyway, you arent 5 years fuckin old, im sure you can make your own decisions.
The R1's are great, imo the 04-06 were the best looking, I have an 08 and it's insane!!, but Id probably tell you out of the whole lot, to go buy a cross plane, I think the '12 R1 had all the extra goodies like TC and shit, if you have the coin, thats where Id spend it. I wanted one, but couldnt quite afford it so settled on the 08.
The R6's arent a terrible bike, but they LOVE to be revved - great fun in the hnds of a confident rider in the right place like a track

The ZX10, the 05 is an awesome bike, but has a reputation as being a real handful, so approach with caution, the slightly later 07~ or so with the undertails were a little more watered down and might be your style, but I personally think they look a bit clunky and heavy - Im not saying they ARE, just they look like it. since all your options have loads of power, It's not unreasonable to have what looks the prettiest as a factor in your decision!

for me, the pick of the duc's would be the 848, personal preference only.

dont know much about the MV's so Ill leave that for some one who is familiar with them.

the RC8 is a nice bike, I have a couple friends who own them, and they love them. a nice bike but not my cup of tea.

If you want to know what I would buy from that list, it would be the 12 R1, followed shortly after by any of the other crossplane models (09+) but most on that list are pretty damned equal so you might need to whittle your list down to 3-4 models, then go test riding. "







Thank you for +veness, Yeah If dont mind Yamaha R1 and I think they're great bike. So If I end up buying one then it'll have to be atleast between 06' to 12' model.

And Ducati 848 is like the best looking bike from the lot so yeah I dont mind getting one but i'm fussy about th colro and it has to be in red. I've been keeping an eye out for them on tradme and the cheapest one I saw went for 12.5 k through an auction and that was the highest bid so yeah I'm just waiting for the price to fall around 10k so i can buy it and have the rest of teh dosh put towards its maintenance etc.

I'd really like to know whats the cost involved in maintaining them ( how often does the biek require to change the chain and sprockets, oil and filter and any other stuff thats needs doing ) Would like to know all of these details so that I can have a seprate budget per anum to maintain it.


Yeah Ktm RC8 looks mean but I've heard they're suit more on a track then the road so yeah I've go some mixed view on them but hey if someone is selling them cheap the I'm happy to give them a shot and find it out for my self.

I've read some good stuff about Mv Agusta F4 750cc and 1000cc but my only concern is the cost invloved in maintaining them but if its close to maintaining a Japanese bike then I have no problem buying one .

[pratik8890]

Heres a revolutionary idea - how about sorting out what bike you really would like then researching it. Buy the one YOU like.

Thank you for the reply, Yes i've been doing it since last 3 years. Hence I got custom searches/ favorites on trademe where I can see all of these bikes as they come online for sale. Beside this I have been talking to my mates who ride some of them, I also watch a lot of stuff online( mcn, motorcylce.com channels on Youtube) , also do a lot of research on Bike forums from states etc but I thought it'll be good to get some advise from the local lads as you guys knows these bike and our roads. Therefore I started this thread and the pointers guve by you all so far has been really valuable.

[pratik8890]

I think you should go for a Busa...since your legs are so short....

Personally I think you should spend the money on better gear, then get a better bike. Are you still wearing fingerless gloves? If so maybe you should switch to a Harley where they won't look out of place


Seriously though, pick one from the list that appeals to you most. Then go and check it out and see if it really floats your boat. If you aren't in love with it, try the next model. All people can give their opinions on the bikes they've ridden and owned, but they aren't you. Their stature, build, skill level, experience, life stage and what they want out of the bike will all influence their decision.

You are right Si, I shall act upon this but thought of doing lil bit of local research first before doing the upgrade. And yes I've got proper hand gloves now, they were really comfy when I did my big trip to Auckland and also got some mean Caterpillar shoes from the UK which are solid on the bike. Hope to catchup with you soon and then go for a ride.

[pratik8890]

Have a go on a either a new zx6r or and 05-06 one, they are 636cc which doesnt sound like much but makes a decent difference to the low and mid range torque. Same goes for a 675 daytona.

I think litre sport are over kill and have never regretted buying a super sport bike

I came across this mint ZX6r on trademe listed by Red Baron who are wantin 11k for it and its seems to be a nice bike but the only thig I dont like about it is the exhaust, I prefer to have the exhaust at the back of the seat and Daytona 675 is a great bike but for some reason I'm not a big fan of them.

[pratik8890]

For the ZX10R, the 04-05 was the first model and a handful. The 06-07 (wheelbarrow) was much easier to ride, sat further into the bike etc. Also had a steering damper standard, and while not brilliant, the 04 didn't have one standard (well advised to fit one if one hasn't been already fitted)


For me at least, it's more the torque. The bike is simply too fast to comprehend for a learner, and especially if they've been used to ringing a 250 (hopefully not happening with LAMS) you really can't have a concentration lapse. Common for a learner to crash a big bike entering a corner as they simply had no idea just how quick they had accelerated since the last corner. Even with a 600 it can happen, but you do need to try a little harder. A thou can easily spin up in top gear when doing 80-90kph as well...

Thank you for your thoughts , I really appreciate it.

[pratik8890]

1. Work out whether the following gizmos are 'must have', or just 'nice to have' - positive neutral finder (kwakas only), gear position indicator, slipper clutch.

2. Browse trademe/youtube and work out which bike looks the coolest, sounds the coolest, comes in a your favourite colour. We can't answer this for you.

Pick the three bikes that best fit this criteria. Go and sit on each (I wouldn't worry about test riding unless you REALLY want to). Go with your gut and hesitate no further, it's just money.

Still can't decide after that? Assign each bike a number, roll a die and go with what the die says (no matter what).

Thank you for the post, yes most of teh bike in my list are cool, some of them comes with fav color on tradme occasionally and some of them have mean exhaust also but I just wanted to get some of the pointers from you guys so I posted this and to be honest it has paid off by all the responses so far. And yes I shall roll the dice after picking my top three

[pratik8890]

Good logic. Going from a 250 to a 600 is a much safer bet than straight to a thou, regardless of what anyone says they've done.

To OP - Work out what style of bike you want though, that list of yours is a laugh!

And you may think you're a safe rider, but have you had any actual roadcraft training by a proper instructor? If you haven't, allot a few dollars for some courses to up your skills, and buying a decent 600 or 750 will allow that.

Oh, and a Busa will always be a bulky bike regardless of what exhausts are on it. I've got a Busa, and while it's a pussycat of a bike when just dawdling along...it's also got an alter ego that isn't so sedate haha

Thank you for the feedback, I can handle both 600cc or 1000 so it'll be either when I upgrade and I've always been into Sportsbike so it'll have to be a Sports style bike. I have ben doing group rides and they help out a lot with learining all the essential road skills and time to time I always got for Taranaki Rider day Training to revise/ learn new skills etc. But I'd still like to do the roadcraft training as recommended by you as it sound to be beneficial ( will sure look up on this )

So what are you timely expenses on mainitning your Busa? Please share with me. Thank you

[pratik8890]

It's definitely the case that European bikes cost a little more to service and that parts are harder to find in NZ, and therefore likely to be more expensive. Something that I totally overlooked was how much more a large bike would cost in general over a 250. Expect your petrol costs to double, at least. They take a lot more oil when it comes time for a change and the tyres are significantly more expensive AND disappear quicker (depending on the bike and your riding). And make sure you are sitting down when you ask about the cost of insurance, especially if you are under 25.

I'm not by any means trying to put you off, I'm excited for you and your bike shopping (FUN!). Just make sure you calculate these things first before you splash out on the biggest flashest most expensive bike your budget affords.

These are some of the great pointers mate, thank you for that. Yes bigger bike will cost more in maintenance, rego etc and I'm not sure about Motorbike insurance yet cos I never had one but I'd like to get one when I get a bigger bike. Please let me know if you know of any good insurance company for Motorbikes? Thank you

[Grashopper]

Please let me know if you know of any good insurance company for Motorbikes? Thank you

Have a look here: http://www.kiwibike.co.nz/ (Yes, without the 'r') There are quite a few people here that highly recommend them, me included. There are loads of insurance threads with more information around here, too...

[mossy1200]

Yes nigger bike will cost more.

Im not sure you can say that.

Maybe stretched out bling bike would be better.

[rustyrobot]

Please let me know if you know of any good insurance company for Motorbikes?

I would most definitely recommend that you go through Kiwibike insurance brokers. I had a 'mechanical failure' on my bike, which was worth about $7500, and majority owned by the bank. The insurance company weren't going to pay out (as they didn't initially see it as an accident), and Dave at Kiwibike gave me great advice and took care of the process. In the end they paid out - if they hadn't I would have had no bike and still owed the bank $7000.
www.kiwibike.co.nz

If you are getting a loan for the bike you will be required to get insurance. Mine costs about $600 a year and I'm in my 30s. I spoke to someone last week who was paying $1000/yr on their (admittedly brand new) <400cc bike.

From memory the Ducatis need a yearly service that cost in the range of $1200 (valve clearances), but I might have the frequency wrong. Sure someone here can clarify. I was lusting after a Duc and that was ultimately the thing that put me off. My Aprilia is about half that, but it still smarts. Talking of which - have you considered an RSV?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-654811643.htm

[nzmikey]

I know of a 2002 R6 that is for sale with 21,xxxkm on the clock ....