Old multi-cylinder bikes of the 50s to later on. Japanese, British, Euro, etc

[Yow Ling]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1348178...80714676/show/

That link has a heap of pics of a V12 CBX and a video of it running

looks nice and shiny , does it overheat? just cant see how the cooling works with all that stuff in the way and the front cylinders have the fins going the wrong way

[Grumph]

[QUOTE=Yow Ling;looks nice and shiny , does it overheat? just cant see how the cooling works with all that stuff in the way and the front cylinders have the fins going the wrong way[/QUOTE]

I see it's covered in oil coolers Mike - CBX's don't have a lot of finning anyway and rely largely on oil cooling...

TWR - no idea what that thing is, all I can say is that plating the frame around it is akin to polishing a turd....

[dangerous]

cooling aint no problem here, 2.6 V12

but of all big blocks this is farking awesome...

[T.W.R]

TWR - no idea what that thing is, all I can say is that plating the frame around it is akin to polishing a turd....

wasn't built in Hororata either

but of all big blocks this is farking awesome...

[Grumph]

wasn't built in Hororata either :

Well I assume that at that date and in the UK you didn't build it either....i looked at it and immediately made the old connection...If it don't go, chrome it....So WTF was it - and which museum is it in now ?

[leathel]

a pic taken from this years thunderbeach ride... this was the bike he rides.... the better ones doesn't go out much this one seamed mint to me

[dangerous]

....So WTF was it - and which museum is it in now ?

yeah tea uu R, spill... or else

[T.W.R]

i looked at it and immediately made the old connection...If it don't go, chrome it....So WTF was it - and which museum is it in now ?

yeah tea uu R, spill... or else

It's a Macey 8 (insert pun here ) handbuilt by Bill Macey in Essex apparently one of two built. Two banks of four 30cc cylinders with disc valve induction. He also built the frame. It was a runner and god knows where it/they are now ?? no info on the net.
The article on the show is from Motorcycle Sport Volume21 issue 2

Was the same show that Cotton displayed their EM34

Well I assume that at that date and in the UK you didn't build it either....

At that date in time I was watching the old man and others play with the likes of GP Triumphs, Bezzers & other things; And racing around Canterbury on the weekends chasing peeps like Mark Thorpe, Mark Lyndon, & James Lavender on a YZ80

[Grumph]

It's a Macey 8 (insert pun here ) handbuilt by Bill Macey in Essex apparently one of two built. Two banks of four 30cc cylinders with disc valve induction. He also built the frame. It was a runner and god knows where it/they are now ?? no info on the net.
The article on the show is from Motorcycle Sport Volume21 issue 2

Was the same show that Cotton displayed their EM34





At that date in time I was watching the old man and others play with the likes of GP Triumphs, Bezzers & other things; And racing around Canterbury on the weekends chasing peeps like Mark Thorpe, Mark Lyndon, & James Lavender on a YZ80

At that date I was in temporary retirement from racing and raising a family....and being annoyed by kids riding noisy bikes....

the Cotton worked well for Britain didn't it....usual good start but piss poor continued development and lack of money.

[T.W.R]

At that date I was in temporary retirement from racing and raising a family....and being annoyed by kids riding noisy bikes....
the Cotton worked well for Britain didn't it....usual good start but piss poor continued development and lack of money.

Wasn't me annoying you though I did get ticked off by Ray Sherman a couple of times at meets

The pics of the Cotton made it look out of date already

[husaberg]

At that date I was in temporary retirement from racing and raising a family....and being annoyed by kids riding noisy bikes....

the Cotton worked well for Britain didn't it....usual good start but piss poor continued development and lack of money.

The poms had the money, look at how much bikes they sold in the 50's 60's..
They just wouldn't invest in their factories with modern tooling and so forth, They had the designers.. they had the materials...
Their labour wasn't dearer than the Japanese.
It was just bloody minded tightness and being short sighted. Well thats my opinion.

[dangerous]

At that date I was in temporary retirement from racing and raising a family...

Id like to think its temporary aswell

It was just bloody minded tightness and being short sighted. Well thats my opinion.

To a degree yeah, like my Triumph (car) bible shows prototypes built before the yanks were doing fast backs, pop up head lights etc... but the poms freaked them selves out and figgered that was way to radical we cant have that.

[F5 Dave]

The poms had the money, look at how much bikes they sold in the 50's 60's..
They just wouldn't invest in their factories with modern tooling and so forth, They had the designers.. they had the materials...
Their labour wasn't dearer than the Japanese.
It was just bloody minded tightness and being short sighted. Well thats my opinion.

War screwed them and they needed to pay back debt to US. Exporting was best way to do that but they were cash strapped. The mentality carried on to stupid levels though.

[husaberg]

Id like to think its temporary aswell


To a degree yeah, like my Triumph (car) bible shows prototypes built before the yanks were doing fast backs, pop up head lights etc... but the poms freaked them selves out and figgered that was way to radical we cant have that.

hele and many others had great ideas stifled like the MC1 BSA never raced because the board said Hele must guarantee it would win first time out

War screwed them and they needed to pay back debt to US. Exporting was best way to do that but they were cash strapped. The mentality carried on to stupid levels though.

Granted but there forward planning and piss poor leadership by upper-class toffs.
Arthur Wicks (who did all the real detail designer stuff at Triumph) wasn't allowed to call Edward Turner by his first name....
I read stories of crankcases and covers being machined and polished only to be chucked into a bin instead of carefully stored so not to damage the mating surfaces.
Hele wanted to do the Trident and the Quantrant years before the CB750.
The Fury and Bandit could have been real sellers if only they had got the details right.

Joe Craig wanted to buy the Nougier 4 500 that showed great promise and the price was right but management wouldn't accept a froggy engine.
Norton kept interfering and changing the brief with the Cosworth twin according to Williams. Including making Cosworth make the engine look the same on both sides.....

[F5 Dave]

Oh sure, align with most English glorious defeats, along the lines of 'March over that way, we've been shelling the Hun for days'. And Triumph owners like to spend a Saturday afternoon dong the valves or whatever the quote was.