The experts speak yet again

[actungbaby]

In an emergency, you tend to fall back on long term ingrained responses, as your survival instinct tries to take over. If your default setting is crap, your emergency responses will be crap because there normally isn't much time to think, which is why it's more important to learn proper riding techniques early on, and build on them through your riding life, to give yourself a fighting chance if it all turns to shit !

well true enough but that less about teqnique more on compsure

[actungbaby]

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Not so sure there is a connect , the road toll generally is going down, modern cars would leave the old cars for dead performance wise as would the modern bike , modern cars are a lot safer , as are modern bikes. There was no ABS, traction control, tyres were crap , brakes were crap, suspension was crap, most bikes had garbage handling , we got into just as much trouble then as we do now.

Yes the tires where crap esp the oem ones and the frq honda shocks didnt they say stood for fade very quick. no wonder

Mike the bike took his works honda shocks of his 500 looked the bike tech then trpugh them in the lake . must been honda test track.

I think translation got through.

But The trouble today well from 90,s on all the abs plastic bike gets written of and drop of a hat. bikes dont hold themselves up.

So alot acc levvey not going on patching riders up its going on riped ridding gear and alike .

Must say other day was at accident sence in town police very good at writting down the damage to his bike and gear.

Talking to driver that this time caused the accident he was okay riped jeans kee had bit of a gash.

Bike was good to new cbr 500 r though just cause had crack in faring it be 500 plus problley grand with labour.broken right indicator.

gee bikes are 20 years on bike still scrape same parts dont they .

[actungbaby]

I'd say the reason that chart shows an increase in the over 40s Riders crashing is simply down to the lack of young people taking up riding. All that leaves is us older folk, so over time the stats wil have no choice but to reflect this demographic.

great point pretty sad hop more young folks do . but think hopfully as more of choice know not transport reason , that be less hoons

Taking up biking .

[actungbaby]

what I keep telling my old man to try get him back into riding, approaching 70, surely has one more adventure left in him

Meet dude here in town 70 years young brand new honda cbr 250 r he loves it but hes never stoped riding

He very carefull man u expect that be the case as got this far hasint he (my i thought not half the rider he is )

Imagine his exp with the british bikes up till know he be great to talk to (and he was). bill from memory.

[actungbaby]

I bet that as you hit the dog you had no throttle or brakes on. If you had of rolled on some more throttle as you hit, the bike would be more likely to stay upright.

At speedway I hit walls many times at full throttle on the straights, just bounce off and carry on. Seen so many people back off the throttle and the bike get ugly and crash.

More like dumb luck i hit dog going less than 50 kph had back brake locked i didnt fall off (poilce all looked around ) was outside

gang house the higway 61,s in chch how embarrsing . got off ownere said dog was fune he made alot racket though .

Mind you dude u know what works for you so its all about confidence .crap i read other day how this dude

In kenworth injured by hiting a cow and thought feck . you know mate hit one in his car he told me wrote it off.

I think be curtins if you did on a bike .

[actungbaby]

You didn't answer my question....
And you're wrong on this one anyway, ask James Deuce he knows all about it.

Did you see that article in herald online about guy lost his leg , it been reported to police about dangerous sitwation, with stock.

And been crash before from memory they got sent to wrong adress , and this guy hit in his car lost his leg. nasty.

Any way short story not angrey about it anymore great attitude wants appogy from police and famer didnt even bother

To contact him . pss poor whay is it nice ones get treaed like S@##T

been some rich big wig or Poilitican been hell to pay.

Mind you read about dude from band elo and one round hay bales rlled on to his car killed outright in the uk .

Just dumb luck i think u can be like shcmaker do all that racing fall of your skis hello enjoy your life.

[actungbaby]

Yeh, anyone who falls off clearly shouldn't be covered by ACC, that'll lower the fuck out of our levies too

Yes cant really have that be like the usa ur scewed if your got average wage or less .thinking wheres all this acc levies

I never claimed oh my dad did rip up old suit and said i was wearing it :-) not to cool with that . didnt tell me .

U think nkow 20 year doesit waer old dudes suit lol.

But its not hospital costs cause gov pay those or treatments is just time off from work why bike costs are so high.

look all sports injuires and all that bs therpy . i never had any of that i limped for few months but u heal yourself.


Of course if its broken diffrent story, never boroken bone either.or stichs or gravel rash much.

[actungbaby]

There's always an 'exception' to the rule... back in the late 90's/early 2000's? They hosted the World speedway down in Invergumboot. The 'Master' Ivan Mauger was down there with his old 'nemesis' from Aussie, those old timers did a few 'races' and in their 60's were only a few seconds behind the race times of the modern crop, Have a look at youtube of J Surtees riding clubman in his later years, real talent stays with you.

totally as its remembered even if its natual refexs to them the old limbs stil got move the fingers and wrists legs and feet.

Thats high compression singles take alot to control more than motogp bike . bloody ruts oh nasty i never get on one.

My wifes cousin Had big crash in rapuna two weeks ago broken arm punched lung in very bad state . dudes got no fear.

Wasint even at fault guy in front swinger fell of cause just kancked .feck me seen him race here. i just said to him

Dude you brave man way pitch in the first corner so close dam

He already looking when he can get back to racing he got the 2 nz next year and been racing for 25 years.

[actungbaby]

totally as its remembered even if its natual refexs to them the old limbs stil got move the fingers and wrists legs and feet.

Thats high compression singles take alot to control more than motogp bike . bloody ruts oh nasty i never get on one.

My wifes cousin Had big crash in rapuna two weeks ago broken arm punched lung in very bad state . dudes got no fear.

Wasint even at fault guy in front swinger fell of cause just kancked .feck me seen him race here. i just said to him

Dude you brave man way pitch in the first corner so close dam

He already looking when he can get back to racing he got the 2 nz next year and been racing for 25 years.

Was just news piece on tvone news 20 mins in about motorcycle road toll older riders the kitchen sink...

Not good listening some bikes tire off the rim holy feck whole front ends missing u ee these sences in road racing crashs in the 80,s not on

the road.

Some those bikes make barry sheenes ow_61 look like got gravel rash only and that one where hit the prone bike on the track at 150 mph.

[mstriumph]

been riding consistently for a long time
the bikes I ride now are more powerful than those I rode at 14, the roads are more congested and my reflexes are slower (which, considering they came off a far higher level than most, don't bother me too much ).

if someone will give me some meaningful stats, like prangs per thousand kms ridden, expressed in rider age groupings of no greater than ten years, I might listen ... until then it's just another self-aggrandising so called 'authority' blathering on about something of which they know little just to get their name and picture in the press.

[ellipsis]

There's always an 'exception' to the rule... back in the late 90's/early 2000's? They hosted the World speedway down in Invergumboot. The 'Master' Ivan Mauger was down there with his old 'nemesis' from Aussie, those old timers did a few 'races' and in their 60's were only a few seconds behind the race times of the modern crop, Have a look at youtube of J Surtees riding clubman in his later years, real talent stays with you.

...yeah, I was racing at those events...lot of older internationals there...the Crump Mauger shoot out was fantastic...you dont know anyone that filmed the racing do you ...

[actungbaby]

been riding consistently for a long time
the bikes I ride now are more powerful than those I rode at 14, the roads are more congested and my reflexes are slower (which, considering they came off a far higher level than most, don't bother me too much ).

if someone will give me some meaningful stats, like prangs per thousand kms ridden, expressed in rider age groupings of no greater than ten years, I might listen ... until then it's just another self-aggrandising so called 'authority' blathering on about something of which they know little just to get their name and picture in the press.

I wondered somthing never thought of how many regestered motorbikes are there on the road . u dont here how many cars.

News mentioned firgure 20 times more likey crash or was be killed on a motorbike compred to car i assume they mean

Or do they mean sky diving.;-)

[yevjenko]

...deep stab wounds in my knees and elbow from shattered "armour" in my leathers. My carbon fibre helmet was split in two. .

What was the gear you were wearing? I need to make sure I don't own any of it.

And mucho ouch to the rest of your post

sent from my phone (so scuze auto correct typos)

[swbarnett]

News mentioned firgure 20 times more likey crash or was be killed on a motorbike compred to car i assume they mean

Don't believe them. That figure is based on seriously flawed data. The real figure (from memory) is closer 4 times. Even that is suspect; we're not comparing apples with apples.

[Voltaire]

Now that I'm over 50 I have had to stop listening to BFM and tune to 1ZB, that Leighton Smith and all those callers sure have the answers to everything.