Tragedy on our roads

[Kickaha]

So.. you don't own one then???

Shows he does have some taste

[scumdog]

Shows he does have some taste

And you can get fucked!

[Murray]

And you can get fucked!

and soeth say the law

[caspernz]

Can anyone ever really love a harley?

Yes I reckon it's possible, you just gotta get past the stage where you like bikes to be fast and nimble

[scumdog]

Yes I reckon it's possible, you just gotta get past the stage where you like bikes to be fast and nimble

Sorta like women?

Ya need to catch them SOMEHOW...

[jellywrestler]

I found the side story more interesting
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9833...torcycle-crash
cheese cutter barriers all the way along there

yip and they're to stop head ons, i'm in favour of twice as many of those

[Gremlin]

yip and they're to stop head ons, i'm in favour of twice as many of those

Right... so the ones on the side of the road are for... ?

[caseye]

Right... so the ones on the side of the road are for... ?

To stop the morons who were travelling too fast and speared off then came back into the roadway and caused even more problems, is my understanding.

I spoke with the Waikato road safety engineers who placed all of the wire rope barriers around the Rangiriri area in Hamilton a few years ago at a Ulysses sponsored meeting where they had the engineers, the local ACC spokeswoman and some of us MAG types down from the big smoke.Until they put them in there, there was a fatal head on there almost every week.
Immediately they went in the head on's stopped.
We all had our say and the 70 odd Waikato Ulyssians who had come in for the meeting learned a thing or two. The Waikato ACC Lady was someone who was and I believe still is working with Ulysses and other groups, was supportive and had and I believe still does try to improve things down there through her own work with interested parties.
The Traffic engineers had a problem and a budget, they solved the traffic problem, within budget, but were willing to talk with motorcyclists and or anyone else who could come up with 'VIABLE' alternatives.
It is a trade off, I ride through there a bit and frankly I have no trouble riding through there at all, to come off and hit them would not be a nice experience, but nor would going under the front of an oncoming car/bus/truck.
To come off in the first place would mean you'd either been involved in an altercation with another vehicle,or as is more normal you've fucked it up and gone in fast.
Either way you're toast, I keep my distances when travelling through there and make damned sure I don't come off, my wife rides too and she to has no issues with riding through there.
To date one person that I know of has died as a result of hitting a wire rope barrier. That was a single vehicle accident and it wasn't pretty.It is my understanding that this accident was entirely preventable.

[Gremlin]

To come off in the first place would mean you'd either been involved in an altercation with another vehicle,or as is more normal you've fucked it up and gone in fast.

Or you lose traction on some tar with zero grip (at the speed limit) and nowhere to go.

I lost traction on SH1 (between Hams and Aucks) on a slippery bit where the cheesecutters are close to the road, single lane between the expressways, but fortunately stayed upright and more or less stayed in a straight line until I got to the other side.

[EJK]

So, does owning a Harley make you a rapist? Do only the rapists ride Harlies?

[MIXONE]

So, does owning a Harley make you a rapist? Do only the rapists ride Harlies?

Favourite pick up line is "Does this smell like chloroform to you?"

[gammaguy]

Dead bikers are usually lauded for dying "doing what they loved", and other trite twaddle. One wonders if that was true in this case.

If that was true he would have died while raping someone

[gammaguy]

Rider fatalities come in all shapes and sizes and lifestyles.

First time I have heard rape described as a lifestyle

[jasonu]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11220810

Is it a news media open season on motorcyclists or is there nothing else news worthy to print?

[trustme]

It is the seed germination for a campaign for motorcyclists to clean up their act. First you have to cement into the public subconscious the perception that there is a problem, perception becomes reality & it is all down hill from there.

Speeding was the norm , but not now
Drink driving was the norm, not now
The forestry industry is now under the pump for it's safety record, the clobbering machine has gone to work on them.
We are just getting softened up for a hiding

The frustration is that to a large degree we have no one to blame but ourselves.