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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    as for the point,
    always go straight to the front of roadworks queues.
    If some nagger is giving you shit, pop a wheelie and flip him the bird, he obviously needs to learn that youre a far more evolved being and can do whatever the fuck you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denali View Post
    There is always a bottle neck but with little traffic coming the otherway I sometimes I slip in between the cones, overtake and pull back in at the lights.

    During the said manoeuvre I do not exceed 30km/h and there is no oncoming traffic just seems like a regular overtake, any comments on the legality?

    Main reason I ask as I've acquired a nemesis in one of the road crew who waits for me then runs out into my path to get me to pull back in in an aggressive manner, I saw him take down my plate and assume he has probably reported me

    Any comments are appreciated
    Have a look at the Road User Rule, Section 2.3 (1)(e) -

    2.3 Use of lanes
    (1) A driver, when driving, must not use—
    (a) a lane that has been declared unavailable by an overhead traffic signal showing a red diagonal cross; or
    (b) on a two-way roadway marked in 2 or more lanes, a lane on the right side of the centre line unless the driver is passing another vehicle travelling in the same direction; or
    (c) on a two-way roadway marked in 3 lanes,—
    (i) the lane on the right side of the roadway; or
    (ii) the centre lane unless the driver is turning right into another roadway or a vehicle entrance or is passing another vehicle travelling in the same direction; or
    (d) a lane to the driver’s right of a no-passing line; or
    (e) the area on the right side of a row of traffic cones or other delineators placed so that they separate traffic travelling in opposite directions.


    So yeah, you're nicked.

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    If the other side is closed your on questionable ground at best. Most road crews pull a cone out of the way and wave me through if the queues are that long.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Denali View Post
    Hi

    As you are all probably aware there is a lot of road works in Christchurch, one particular section of road on my way to work has both shoulders closed with two lanes hard on one side of the road.

    There is always a bottle neck but with little traffic coming the otherway I sometimes I slip in between the cones, overtake and pull back in at the lights.

    During the said manoeuvre I do not exceed 30km/h and there is no oncoming traffic just seems like a regular overtake, any comments on the legality?

    Main reason I ask as I've acquired a nemesis in one of the road crew who waits for me then runs out into my path to get me to pull back in in an aggressive manner, I saw him take down my plate and assume he has probably reported me

    Any comments are appreciated,

    Cheers
    Sitting in a queue at a Stop/Go controlled area a few years ago, I witnessed a group (maybe 20?) of 1%ers cruise on by, in the lane that was free for the northbound traffic to use, causing the vehicles in that lane to move over in what was already a narrow bit of road due to the roadwork's. Stop/Go guy didn't saying anything to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    Sitting in a queue at a Stop/Go controlled area a few years ago, I witnessed a group (maybe 20?) of 1%ers cruise on by, in the lane that was free for the northbound traffic to use, causing the vehicles in that lane to move over in what was already a narrow bit of road due to the roadwork's. Stop/Go guy didn't saying anything to them.
    a group that size - intimidated perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denali View Post
    Hi

    As you are all probably aware there is a lot of road works in Christchurch, one particular section of road on my way to work has both shoulders closed with two lanes hard on one side of the road.

    There is always a bottle neck but with little traffic coming the otherway I sometimes I slip in between the cones, overtake and pull back in at the lights.

    During the said manoeuvre I do not exceed 30km/h and there is no oncoming traffic just seems like a regular overtake, any comments on the legality?

    Main reason I ask as I've acquired a nemesis in one of the road crew who waits for me then runs out into my path to get me to pull back in in an aggressive manner, I saw him take down my plate and assume he has probably reported me

    Any comments are appreciated,

    Cheers
    With some of the roadworks I've seen laid out I'm not surprised why you do it.
    St Asaph St is a prime example. No one is actually on site, the coned off area is safe to ride on, yet it's coned off and simply pisses people off.
    I've seen 10 other examples about the place too.
    I'd sneak up too if I was on my bike but maybe just pull into the traffic sooner, well before the workers

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    I'm not sure I can articulate it well, but it feels like there is a difference between taking advantage of the natural benefits of riding a bike, and simply "jumping the queue" and being an arse. This is something I've been thinking about lately, as there are some things bikes do on the road that piss me off, and some things that don't.

    Splitting on the motorway, for example, I see no issue with and happily do it myself. Middle of nowhere (more or less), a long way to go an no-one given any trouble. I don't filter, but I've got no issue with bikes filtering at the bigger straighter intersections. (I do get annoyed by the ones filtering at the Terrace exit, who go 'round the right of the cars turning left (getting in the way) and who don't seem to respect the pedestrian crossing well enough.)

    But in the car on the way to work, we're sometimes stuck in a long line of cars waiting for the Terrace exit (heading into Wellington). Twice in the last couple of months a vehicle (one was a Porsche SUV, one was some regular station wagon) has driven up the left side of all the waiting cars, using the shoulder of the road, just to go past all the cars and squeeze in at the end. (This is not when people use the shoulder to pass the Terrace traffic when it's backed up all the way to Murphy st and they want that exit in-between; this is passing queued cars to go to the same exit as them). Unless they had to get their pregnant wife to hospital or something, that's just annoying queue jumping.

    I think, maybe, the rational difference in my head is the effect of everyone doing it.

    For example, if every bike on the motorway splits, well, it's no big deal (they mostly do already) and they just happily flow on down between the cars. Nobody troubled.

    But what if 50% of the cars waiting for the Terrace exit decided to use the shoulder to try to go past the other 50%? That'd just be chaos.

    So road cones and road works; I'm thinking that's a case where the "rules" ought to just be followed. Someone has decided there are dangerous road conditions; or maybe the roadside workers need safe space. Just respect it. That's a place where if everybody started making up their own rules, there'd be chaos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Have a look at the Road User Rule, Section 2.3 (1)(e) -

    2.3 Use of lanes
    (1) A driver, when driving, must not use—

    (e) the area on the right side of a row of traffic cones or other delineators placed so that they separate traffic travelling in opposite directions.


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    Just to clarify

    Like said above I don't believe 30kph would be considered blasting anywhere and I'm not riding through anyone's worksite its through a lane/on the road with an absence of oncoming traffic. the road cones are the real differentiating factor

    Re "2.3 Use of lanes
    (1) A driver, when driving, must not use—

    (e) the area on the right side of a row of traffic cones or other delineators placed so that they separate traffic travelling in opposite directions."[/
    [/I]I]

    The area on the right side is the oncoming lane so its not laid out black and white

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denali View Post
    Just to clarify

    Re "2.3 Use of lanes
    (1) A driver, when driving, must not use—

    (e) the area on the right side of a row of traffic cones or other delineators placed so that they separate traffic travelling in opposite directions."[/
    [/I]I]

    The area on the right side is the oncoming lane so its not laid out black and white
    You've confused me now. The traffic in your direction is on the left hand side of the cones with traffic coming towards you, if there was any, on the right hand side of the cones. In that case the cones separate traffic travelling in opposite directions and you are not complying with this part of the rule. Seems black and white to me. I might need a picture.

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    I think there's a typo in the OP's username, the I at the end should appear right after the N.

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