Dobbed in weed-growing parents

[SMOKEU]

Did you smoke all 11 bags you dumb cunt?

No. 3 hits from a cone and that was it. It honestly hit me like a fucking freight train, and I felt like I was going to be confined to a mental institution for the rest of my life, and that I had destroyed my entire life. Thank fuck it's over! That shit is some serious stuff that should never be fucked with, and it should have been banned a long time ago.

I've never felt like I was going to die from any other drug before. The only thing that comes closeish is nutmeg, but even that has severe flu like symptoms, rather than the feeling of impending doom and death from these synthetics. I'm not normally one to say "drugs are bad, mkay", but I'm happy this shit is banned.

It was honestly like a full on trip, rather than a "high" that you'd expect from stimulants, depressants and mild psychedelics. I'd be happy if I could just stop one person from doing this shit, and I'm keen to spread the message that this crap should be avoided at all costs.

Have you ever tried dripping Dandelion juice down the eye of your cock?

From what I've been told, that has great recreational use.

No, but I look forward to hearing the trip report from you.

[Akzle]

No. 3 hits from a cone and that was it. It honestly hit me like a fucking freight train, and I felt like I was going to be confined to a mental institution for the rest of my life, and that I had destroyed my entire life. Thank fuck it's over! That shit is some serious stuff that should never be fucked with, and it should have been banned a long time ago.

I've never felt like I was going to die from any other drug before. The only thing that comes closeish is nutmeg, but even that has severe flu like symptoms, rather than the feeling of impending doom and death from these synthetics. I'm not normally one to say "drugs are bad, mkay", but I'm happy this shit is banned.

It was honestly like a full on trip, rather than a "high" that you'd expect from stimulants, depressants and mild psychedelics. I'd be happy if I could just stop one person from doing this shit, and I'm keen to spread the message that this crap should be avoided at all costs.



No, but I look forward to hearing the trip report from you.

youre right. If you cant handle it, noone should be allowed.

[SMOKEU]

youre right. If you cant handle it, noone should be allowed.

That's not what I'm saying at all.

But after various experiences with, but not limited to, cannabis, alcohol, amphetamines, opioids, BZP, TMFPP, caffeine, salvia divinorum, none have reproduced effects that are even remotely similar to these synthetic cannabinoids.

Many of these producs are so extremely strong that it's very easy to consume overdose quantities with very little effort. Of course, swallowing pills is also very easy, but these sorts of products should not be commercially available, especially since so little is known about the mid to long term effects, and the short term effects can be extremely unpredictable.

After conducting a fair bit of online research, it seems like many others have experienced very similar effects. How many other readily available drugs do you know of that are this bad? Many habitual users have also experienced side effects such as vomiting blood or seizures, many of which occur upon cessation of these substances. Do you really think these things have any place in society?

[Akzle]

That's not what I'm saying at all.

But after various experiences with, but not limited to, cannabis, alcohol, amphetamines, opioids, BZP, TMFPP, caffeine, salvia divinorum, none have reproduced effects that are even remotely similar to these synthetic cannabinoids.

Many of these producs are so extremely strong that it's very easy to consume overdose quantities with very little effort. Of course, swallowing pills is also very easy, but these sorts of products should not be commercially available, especially since so little is known about the mid to long term effects, and the short term effects can be extremely unpredictable.

After conducting a fair bit of online research, it seems like many others have experienced very similar effects. How many other readily available drugs do you know of that are this bad? Many habitual users have also experienced side effects such as vomiting blood or seizures, many of which occur upon cessation of these substances. Do you really think these things have any place in society?

thats exactly what youre saying.

Im a proponent of freedom. Including the freedon to be a fuken moron.

[Banditbandit]

thats exactly what youre saying.

Im a proponent of freedom. Including the freedon to be a fuken moron.

And you clearly exercise that freedom every day !!!


(SOrry - I just could not walk away from such an opening)

[Akzle]

(SOrry - I just could not walk away from such an opening)

it's okay, i wouldn't have expected any less (or more) from kb...

[MIXONE]

I have seen what that shit does to people on many occassions.I couldn't believe it was legal to ride or drive after smoking it.
Thank fuck it was banned.
I also couldn't believe the profits to be made.Surely even P doesn't have those $ to be made.

[Madness]

I also couldn't believe the profits to be made.

Dairy owners used to love selling the shit. They made 50% G.P on synthetics whilst Tobacco gives them around 10% and less each & every time the prices go up.

Surely even P doesn't have those $ to be made.

I can't see that being the case at $1,000 a gram. Even if P were taxed I think it would still be highly profitable. I'm glad to say I don't know enough about this to state it as fact.

[SMOKEU]

Poor journalism yet again "From midnight on Wednesday, it became illegal to sell, supply or possess psychoactive substances, including synthetic cannabis."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/1002...ing-experience

Fuck, so now I have to worry about the cops raiding my house and seizing my stash of caffeine pills, alcohol, tobacco, kava and nutmeg. They're all psychoactive substances after all. Not to mention the psychoactive prescription drugs that I legally obtained from a pharmacy with a legitimate prescription from a GP, that have my name on the script and pill bottles.

I also hate the term "legal highs". Could you be any more ambiguous?

[Katman]

Even though I'm rapt to see them off the shelves I was surprised to hear on the news that the police have confiscated all the retailers remaining stock and that is was to be destroyed. The government has also said that retailers would not be compensated for loss of stock.

I thought these products were banned until they could be proven to be low risk. Surely this seized stock should be held by the police so that any that manage to meet this requirement can be returned.

[mashman]

Even though I'm rapt to see them off the shelves I was surprised to hear on the news that the police have confiscated all the retailers remaining stock and that is was to be destroyed. The government has also said that retailers would not be compensated for loss of stock.

I thought these products were banned until they could be proven to be low risk. Surely this seized stock should be held by the police so that any that manage to meet this requirement can be returned.

And her majesty's shouldn't have allowed them on to the shelves in the first place, but meh, they are a law unto themselves and peeps iz suckaz.

[Edbear]

Perhaps the best idea is for those charged with making the laws and those pro the freedom to have free access to the drugs to accompany those on the front line for a week or two. The Police, the Paramedics, the hospital emergency rooms, and the counselling agencies.

Then there might be a better understanding of the reality and less angst and argument.

[Akzle]

Perhaps the best idea is for those charged with making the laws and those pro the freedom to have free access to the drugs to accompany those on the front line for a week or two. The Police, the Paramedics, the hospital emergency rooms, and the counselling agencies.

Then there might be a better understanding of the reality and less angst and argument.

maybe they should replace the flouride in the water with tramadol to have a docile, unquestioning and stupid population that wont want to take any other drugs anyway...

[SMOKEU]

maybe they should replace the flouride in the water with tramadol to have a docile, unquestioning and stupid population that wont want to take any other drugs anyway...

Personally I'm not a big fan of tramadol. It feels reasonably good, but just doesn't have the wonderful opioid high that codeine has. Apparently the seizure threshold is quite low too, so I don't take more than 200mg at once.

[Edbear]

maybe they should replace the flouride in the water with tramadol to have a docile, unquestioning and stupid population that wont want to take any other drugs anyway...

Eh? What does that have to do with accompanying the front liners? That's the reality.