Busybody cops?

[avgas]

Interestingly enough, many of the un-regoed, un-wofed vehicles I stop go hand in hand with shit driving habits and attitudes (not all, just many)
What I tend to find is people who don't give a rats about their vehicles also tend not to care how they drive. Just my observations of the past few years

Fair call. But I wonder if that would change if people didn't get asked about it.

I was previously commenting less on the driver and more on the car.
Over here they don't seem to give a fuck - cos you get sued to kingdom come when you hit someone. Most of the old trucks are so rusted that the flares are gone.

With that being said - mainly see new cars in accidents. Old ones blown up on the side of the road.

Which back to my question - if we removed the wof. How many more cars would crash? Cos it looks like zero.

[mstriumph]

safer communities together motherfucker.

You just be fucken grateful theyre out there saving your god fearin, rootin tootin votin lilly white ass from all thats unholy.

Sorry, fella ...
... they are more trouble, expense and aggravation than they are worth. If MY (non) "lilly white" posterior needs saving I'm more than capable of doing it myself, thank you very please.

All that gets in the way is a web of contradictory, dense, open-to-misinterpretation legislative bulldust and a simpering nanny state that doesn't think the ordinary man/woman is capable of wiping their own noses without a raft of procedural gobbledegook-verbiage to "guide" them.

And as for 'god fearin' - I am no more afraid of your imaginary friend than I am of any other man-made construct (except perhaps the live forest in 'Snow White' - THAT gave me nightmares as a child) ... perhaps, in YOUR book that makes ME 'all that's unholy'. That'd be fun.

Don't know how much of this post is comedy, valid retort or just comeback because you seem to have a knack of irritating me. Don't really care go find a cop to hug or something

[Kickaha]

Which back to my question - if we removed the wof. How many more cars would crash? Cos it looks like zero.

Retards would be out in force in any old heap of shit they could drive, if you spent a few day or a week or so at somewhere that does warrants it'd be a big eye opener for you just how shit some vehicles on our roads are

[swbarnett]

Retards would be out in force in any old heap of shit they could drive, if you spent a few day or a week or so at somewhere that does warrants it'd be a big eye opener for you just how shit some vehicles on our roads are

Yes, but would those POS vehicles actually cause an accident if not remedied?

[Kickaha]

Yes, but would those POS vehicles actually cause an accident if not remedied?

No way of telling whether they would or wouldn't

From what I have seen I think the WOF serves a useful purpose other peoples opinions may differ

[mstriumph]

...........................................
Which back to my question - if we removed the wof. How many more cars would crash? Cos it looks like zero.

Yep - the only negative impact would be on revenue currently earned from NZ's finest policing and enforcing yet ANOTHER stupid, restrictive impost on a populace already overburdened with such.

Not just NZ though - the planet is LITTERED with unnecessary restrictions ...
Aus has made a start on getting rid of some of the rubbish but don't kid yourself there's not a barrowload still remaining http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...ralia-red-tape.

... and as for the Johnathons .... http://www.legalzoom.com/us-law/more...est-laws-still ... (but SURELY that's a spoof? )

[mstriumph]

.................... The cop on the forecourt would have been better to do random safety checks and point out all the vehicles with up to date but invalid WOFs, failed lights would be a big one.

That's my biggest bleat in WA - you cannot drive a Km down the road at night without encountering a veh with either badly-adjusted or non-operative lights; most of these are newish-looking vehicles, too.

And the kicker is that I've seen cop cars drive straight past these vehs without challenge. Unbelievable.

[Kickaha]

That's my biggest bleat in WA - you cannot drive a Km down the road at night without encountering a veh with either badly-adjusted or non-operative lights; most of these are newish-looking vehicles, too.

WOF check would pick that up

What do they have as a roadworthiness check over there?

[R650R]

Retards would be out in force in any old heap of shit they could drive, if you spent a few day or a week or so at somewhere that does warrants it'd be a big eye opener for you just how shit some vehicles on our roads are

Agree 100% You only have to watch police 10/7 for five mins just to see some of the stuff they randomly catch.

And for the other posters it may not cause an accident but minor faults can seriously affect the control after a vehicle skids or swerves etc...
I can't believe the LTSA has let some 'good' companies issue their own COFs... its so desperate at some companies the only way to get things fixed sometimes is to pull into the weighbridge and point it out to the cops...

Berg is fairly right though. Through friends and families of mine across a wide range of backgrounds the ones who always have no wof/rego are usually involved in dodgy stuff or their partner is...

As for supermarkets, any place the public has access without restriction is technically a roadway. Was told at forklift course that out company at the time would be 100% liable for running over any one of the office workers from surrounding businesses that cut across our unfenced yard as there was no warning sign to say danger hoist, keep out etc. With shoplifting at epidemic proportions I'd say a carpark is a very likely place to get pulled these days as the cops are there every five mins...

[avgas]

Retards would be out in force in any old heap of shit they could drive, if you spent a few day or a week or so at somewhere that does warrants it'd be a big eye opener for you just how shit some vehicles on our roads are

Um they do that anyway......winz pays the fines.

[avgas]

Yep - the only negative impact would be on revenue currently earned from NZ's finest policing and enforcing yet ANOTHER stupid, restrictive impost on a populace already overburdened with such.

Not just NZ though - the planet is LITTERED with unnecessary restrictions ...

Went through the drama here in buying a car. Took a week to drive it home.
1 week from test driving it, to actually driving it home.

None of that week involved checking if the brakes actually worked (they did). But we did have the following issues:
- Needed STATE (not national) ID.
- Needed proof of insurance.
- Needed vehicle to get emissions check
- Needed to change of ownership
- Needed to have plates issued in out name
- Needed to have insurance placed on the vehicle under those plates.

This was pay cash in full also - so I skipped the extra day of finance bullshit.

But no check to see if the car was actually road worthy. When I asked how often I need to get it checked for road-worthyness the guy simply looked at me and said "ya need to get the emissions checked again in 2 year, and also VISIT the dmv to renew your registration"
(that's right kids - every time you need to do something you must visit a DMV - which basically means you kill a day to drive to some building in the middle of nowhere.......just to top up your rego).

But no checking brakes or tyres or brake lines or suspension or driveline or.....
However if your exhaust leaks your fucked lol.

[swbarnett]

No way of telling whether they would or wouldn't

Agreed. Until it is tried there is no way to be sure. Seeing as how we're one of the few counties (or the only one?) in the world that still has a WOF system I suspect not.

[pritch]

Agreed. Until it is tried there is no way to be sure. Seeing as how we're one of the few counties (or the only one?) in the world that still has a WOF system I suspect not.

There is apparently a big Euro company does warrant type checks because it was them driving the much tighter restrictions on bikes through the European parliament. They were trying to get a "super warrant" introduced in the EEC which would have failed any motorcycle with any modifications to the brakes, engine, or the drive chain IIRC.

They got stopped first time but I understand they are lobbying the politicians hard. All in the name of safety. No interest like self interest.

[Akzle]

Sorry, fella ...
... they are more trouble, expense and aggravation than they are worth. If MY (non) "lilly white" posterior needs saving I'm more than capable of doing it myself, thank you very please.

All that gets in the way is a web of contradictory, dense, open-to-misinterpretation legislative bulldust and a simpering nanny state that doesn't think the ordinary man/woman is capable of wiping their own noses without a raft of procedural gobbledegook-verbiage to "guide" them.

And as for 'god fearin' - I am no more afraid of your imaginary friend than I am of any other man-made construct (except perhaps the live forest in 'Snow White' - THAT gave me nightmares as a child) ... perhaps, in YOUR book that makes ME 'all that's unholy'. That'd be fun.

Don't know how much of this post is comedy, valid retort or just comeback because you seem to have a knack of irritating me. Don't really care go find a cop to hug or something

oh darling. You need a hug.
With my penis.

[FJRider]

oh darling. You need a hug.
With my penis.

As usual ... you would fall SHORT of expectations ...

You need a life ... and another 6 inches ...