Stupid World

[Oscar]

..and which, if people were getting decent wages, wouldn't be necessary.

And equally wouldn't needed if people weren't paying so much tax.

[Ocean1]

..and which, if people were getting decent wages, wouldn't be necessary.

Nevermind, if you raise the minimum wage high enough then all those wicked employers will have to pay teh hard working employees what they're worth.

And equally wouldn't needed if people weren't paying so much tax.

Yeah, it really is absurd when you look at how much they have to give back to middle income families in order to compensate them for pretty much exactly what they taxed them for in the first place.

[Banditbandit]

Yeah, it really is absurd when you look at how much they have to give back to middle income families in order to compensate them for pretty much exactly what they taxed them for in the first place.

Yeah - that's because people like you scream if they tax the rich to support the poor - so they tax everyone and refund money to the poor ... If we had better differential tax rates we would not need working for families .. but then you'd all scream about he high differential tax rates ...

And if we pay less taxes do we:

A Put less into the Health system
B Put less into the Police?
C Put less into Defense (attack)?
D Put less into Education?
E Put less into Auckland roads? (I'd vote for this one).
F Borrow money overseas to pay for all of the above?

[oldrider]

51% (or maybe 52%) of our social welfare budget goes to old age pensioners .. those bludgers are scooping out more taxpayer money than thesolo mothers, unemployed and other beneficiaries put together.

OUTLAW OLD AGE!!!!

Old TV programe ... "City of Domes"! ... Me and my missus would be long gone on that programe! .

[Banditbandit]

Logan's Run .. and I'd be long gone too ..

[mashman]

Yeah - that's because people like you scream if they tax the rich to support the poor - so they tax everyone and refund money to the poor ... If we had better differential tax rates we would not need working for families .. but then you'd all scream about he high differential tax rates ...

And if we pay less taxes do we:

A Put less into the Health system
B Put less into the Police?
C Put less into Defense (attack)?
D Put less into Education?
E Put less into Auckland roads? (I'd vote for this one).
F Borrow money overseas to pay for all of the above?

An R.B.E. is much easier... it can exist using the same people and the same system and everything too .

[Brian d marge]

Old TV programe ... "City of Domes"! ... Me and my missus would be long gone on that programe! .

Hey thats my job to post that video

I protest

[Ocean1]

Yeah - that's because people like you scream if they tax the rich to support the poor - so they tax everyone and refund money to the poor ...

That they don't do. Fuck me even the extreme left UN doesn't attempt to present the whole lower 55% income earners as poor.

And I wouldn't mind paying more tax than I currently do, if it benefited everyone. Like most infrastructure. Like most health services. And not even slightly like "working" for families.

And who knows, if you didn't subsidise middle income earners in NZ to the tune of somewhat more than they pay in tax then you might be able to afford to help the actual poor and the actual sick when they actually need it.

[blue rider]

stuff people are writing about
http://www.theguardian.com/environme...ercent-cia-spy

[Brian d marge]

If kiwi farmers adopted organic permaculture...

resistant to change always hampers progress

http://online.wsj.com/articles/in-ja...ing-1404700202

Quite a few old factories are being converted to grow vegetables .....YEAR round !!!

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

but you will have to pay for that air..........


http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-28227198


fkin ell

Stephen

[blue rider]

change US to NZ ....it works

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financ...alk_surowiecki

[mashman]

change US to NZ ....it works

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financ...alk_surowiecki

I nearly wee'd.

[blue rider]

and now a word to the faithful



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...ml?ir=Business

[Brian d marge]

Twitters market valuation and how much profit has it made . . . . The dow heading towards 20k with all this zero interest money behind it . . . . . . . Its going to hurt thats all i will say