Retiree shoots pregnant intruder

[Big Dog]

Oh I do apologise. About ten years ago I used a pavement to subdue a violent drunk who had already injured to of my bouncers to the point yet required medial attention. One stitches.

But I stopped when he was unable to continue.

I choked him out when he came to and started up again. But again stopped when he was no longer a threat.
Loaned him my jacket to keep his head off the cement while we waited for the police and ambulance.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

She may have said that to gain an advantage, we do not know that she was. She had already done the head stomping by then.

I know. That is why I only said I cannot support the action.


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[Big Dog]

Was she thinking about her unborn child when she was stomping on his head? When she broke into his property?

So you have never needed forgiveness you did not deserve?


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[Big Dog]

You think beating up 80 year old's doesn't deserve a death penalty?

And the 80 year old who just got emasculated is the best person to be judge jury and executioner?


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[nzspokes]

Oh I do apologise. About ten years ago I used a pavement to subdue a violent drunk who had already injured to of my bouncers to the point yet required medial attention. One stitches.

But I stopped when he was unable to continue.

I choked him out when he came to and started up again. But again stopped when he was no longer a threat.
Loaned him my jacket to keep his head off the cement while we waited for the police and ambulance.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

Different situation. The old fella only had one means of defense. He had 2 attackers and no back up.

And he had just been beaten down, and he is 80.

[bogan]

You think beating up 80 year old's doesn't deserve a death penalty?

Of course it doesn't deserve a death penalty. I'm quite surprised you think it does, but seems we've got to the heart of why our opinions on this matter differ; so that is a sort of progress at least.

[nzspokes]

And the 80 year old who just got emasculated is the best person to be judge jury and executioner?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

The 80 year old that was just beaten and was still under threat you mean?

[Sharry]

Oh I do apologise. About ten years ago I used a pavement to subdue a violent drunk who had already injured to of my bouncers to the point yet required medial attention. One stitches.

But I stopped when he was unable to continue.

I choked him out when he came to and started up again. But again stopped when he was no longer a threat.
Loaned him my jacket to keep his head off the cement while we waited for the police and ambulance.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

That's cool if it made you feel better after choking him and leaving him defenceless. THis man was in a very different situation, his attackers where fit and mobile and giving mercy may have left him dead.

[bogan]

The 80 year old that was just beaten and was still under threat you mean?

Imminent peril has not been established at the time of the shooting. That is why the cops over there are deciding whether or not to press charges.

[nzspokes]

Imminent peril has not been established at the time of the shooting. That is why the cops over there are deciding whether or not to press charges.

Where was the male? Had he gone to get a weapon?

[bogan]

Where was the male? Had he gone to get a weapon?

There is a difference between hypothesising imminent peril and establishing it.

Though even if that were the case, i hardly think him coming back to his missus and unborn kid being dead is going to deescalate the situation.

[Sharry]

Where was the male? Had he gone to get a weapon?

If I was in that man's postition I would be thinking he had gone to the car for a weapon, and i wouldn't wait for 5 mins to see if came back with a bazuka. Which would put me in imminent danger!!!

[Big Dog]

That's cool if it made you feel better after choking him and leaving him defenceless. THis man was in a very different situation, his attackers where fit and mobile and giving mercy may have left him dead.

Nope. Didn't make me feel any better.
I did what I had to with as little force as possible. That didn't make me feel any better either.

What made me feel better was that only two of my bouncers needed medical attention. A third did not get hit a cross the back I the head with a beer handle. None of the patrons Were seriously hurt.


My point was more a measured response was delivered to remove the threat. Once removed mercy was shown.
No I was not elderly, but since when does being elderly give you the right to execute someone who has surrendered?


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[nzspokes]

There is a difference between hypothesising imminent peril and establishing it.

Though even if that were the case, i hardly think him coming back to his missus and unborn kid being dead is going to deescalate the situation.

Im not talking about defending it in court. Talking about what would have been in his mind at the time.

With the female down he only had to deal with the male coming back.

[bogan]

Im not talking about defending it in court. Talking about what would have been in his mind at the time.

With the female down he only had to deal with the male coming back.

So, just more hypothesising then. Could also have been he just felt like he'd get away with some killing, no way to tell which, is there?

She was already down from the first shot by the sounds of it.