MNZ rule changes for 2015

[Yow Ling]

Haha, Nope,

I introduced the running out of fuel rule last year but stupidly I had only applied it to races and not included qualifying and practice, It came from a coroners recommendation following the double fatality at Puke in 2008 that the then commissioner and his dogsbody ignored, Unfortunately for all, The police investigation following the 2012 fatality at Manfeild picked up on the fact, So I instigated it, Best move I made as commissioner, Especially including the punishment in the rule so the "Expert" officials who fail in their duties on a regular basis had to impose it, Thats when they bother to enforce any rules of course.

I have no problem with the intent of the fuel rule, the penalty is strange though, "a fine of not less than $400", so if you are a cock its $900, if you look rich its $1500. whats that all about ?

[Grumph]

I'm looking forward to seeing the final version of 25.1 (C) as the alterations omit parts a,b,c,d,and e. These are the interesting bits including machines specifically excluded from various periods.....Maybe Z1's are now eligible for pre 72 ? Whoopee !!

[scracha]

So shite old classics and posties bikes don't need sharks fins, crash protectors and fluid catching fairings?

Yee haw.

[Billy]

So shite old classics and posties bikes don't need sharks fins, crash protectors and fluid catching fairings?

Yee haw.

I thought they did and the rule proposal was for all, But apparently that has not happened

[Billy]

I have no problem with the intent of the fuel rule, the penalty is strange though, "a fine of not less than $400", so if you are a cock its $900, if you look rich its $1500. whats that all about ?

Again, Thats not what I proposed, The proposed rule was "A minimum $400 fine for the FIRST offence" Talk to admin or the standing rules committee

[Billy]

I'm looking forward to seeing the final version of 25.1 (C) as the alterations omit parts a,b,c,d,and e. These are the interesting bits including machines specifically excluded from various periods.....Maybe Z1's are now eligible for pre 72 ? Whoopee !!

Haha,

Nope I'm pretty sure that'll be the "Oldboys" club desperate attempt at omitting certain models from Pre 89, Despite the fact they didn't even consult members of their own group, Let alone the rest of the country, To even it up and make it a level playing field.....apparently, Like Pre 82 is, Anybody see which way the McIntosh went, What a joke, Way to fuck a sport MNZ, Appendix F radiator rule is just laughable as well,In fact theyve fucked most of them up,Go figure

[budda]

This rule still makes no sense in the English language.

But in 2015 if anyone jumps the start they can argue that they were only under the starters control the instant the flag was at the side of the track. They're not under the starters control while the flag is on track, off track or holidaying in Fiji.

So long as you don't more forward the instant the flag is at the side of the track, you're free to begin the race whenever.

and THAT is why good people have put many many hours into the wording of some of our rules ....... unfortunately they aften get changed by folks with absolutely no comprehension of how the change may affect other instances, sort of a bad by-catch scenario. Also known, in the Trade, as SNAFU

[sidecar bob]

I thought they did and the rule proposal was for all, But apparently that has not happened

I took my pre '82 to Aussie & we had to spend half a day wiring bolts that didnt need wiring here at the time & attatching a shark fin.
id say just do it, rules or not.

[Billy]

I took my pre '82 to Aussie & we had to spend half a day wiring bolts that didnt need wiring here at the time & attatching a shark fin.
id say just do it, rules or not.

Yip,

Aside from the sharksfin, I always have wired everything anyway, It just makes sense to eliminate any risk possible, Same with the running out of fuel rule, Why would you go out without enough fuel to finish a race, You wouldn't go out with a rapidly deflating front tyre or a flat battery, Sometimes you just have to introduce rules to stop the idiots from hurting themselves, Unfortunately at MNZ there are idiots on both sides of the fence, Time to get rid of some of the self confessed experts that are not administering the rules in a reasonable and safe manner, I was informed of several such instances at HD last Sunday.

[Grumph]

Haha,

Nope I'm pretty sure that'll be the "Oldboys" club desperate attempt at omitting certain models from Pre 89, Despite the fact they didn't even consult members of their own group, Let alone the rest of the country, To even it up and make it a level playing field.....apparently, Like Pre 82 is, Anybody see which way the McIntosh went, What a joke, Way to fuck a sport MNZ, Appendix F radiator rule is just laughable as well,In fact theyve fucked most of them up,Go figure

Have to see what comes up on Sept 1 but if they do omit all the sub clauses - whether deliberately or in error - it fucks up all 3 post classic classes good and proper. If as you suggest there's likely to be more specified for pre 89, then where are they ? As i understand it, if it ain't here, it ain't in...

From what I can see - and what I get told off the record - it seems that someone with an agenda looked over the proposed rule changes which had gone through the proper process - and audited them to suit their own purposes....

I'd love to see some names attatched to deeds .

[budda]

From what I can see - and what I get told off the record - it seems that someone with an agenda looked over the proposed rule changes which had gone through the proper process - and audited them to suit their own purposes....

I'd love to see some names attatched to deeds .

Your Coke bottle bottoms are spot-on Sir - as predicted .........

[Shaun Harris]

Have to see what comes up on Sept 1 but if they do omit all the sub clauses - whether deliberately or in error - it fucks up all 3 post classic classes good and proper. If as you suggest there's likely to be more specified for pre 89, then where are they ? As i understand it, if it ain't here, it ain't in...

From what I can see - and what I get told off the record - it seems that someone with an agenda looked over the proposed rule changes which had gone through the proper process - and audited them to suit their own purposes....

I'd love to see some names attatched to deeds .

To busy making $ paddling in 2 poolsat once and threatening to Enforce Bans of extreme messures to show there power rather than focusing on the true positions they accepted to administer on behalf of the Licence holders, the Owners of MNZ!

[sidecar bob]

Recently, a trade organisation i am involved with put a business troubleshooter through head office. Everybody had their contract cancelled & new blood was introduced to remedey what was described as a rancid culture. I wonder if this is what is needed here.

[old rig]

I took my pre '82 to Aussie & we had to spend half a day wiring bolts that didnt need wiring here at the time & attatching a shark fin.
id say just do it, rules or not.

all that time to put a shark fin on didn't they see it was shaft drive hehehe

[Muzzab]

I took my pre '82 to Aussie & we had to spend half a day wiring bolts that didnt need wiring here at the time & attatching a shark fin.
id say just do it, rules or not.

Good on you mate, I'm in your camp, rest assured it will be in the rules (in the right place) eventually.