Sounds like a great bloke.Originally Posted by R650R
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Sounds like a great bloke.
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
Bogeyman
It would certainly colour their opinion regarding their performance, but why bother asking their opinion?
It's not difficult to quantify in actual numbers, gross income would be a close indicator.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Anarchic Wild Child
Gross Income is only a measure of performance in some worlds ... in a Marxist one gross income is an indicator of the lack of work of a capitalist overlord .. not an indicator of productivity. In a capitalist world it certainly is a measure of productivity - the capital being the productive force, not the labour of the owner of the capital ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Bogeyman
In a free market it's a perfect measure of performance. Which, unfortunately, we don't have.
Yeah? Who provided the capital in the first place?
Or are you one of the moronic left who can't quite work out how those rich pricks got so rich but it's something to do with capital, so that's bad?
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Anarchic Wild Child
NO we don't despite the claims to the contrary .. I'm not sure that you would really like a true free market ...
No, but see, and this is my point, there are many ways of seeing the world .. I have a pretty radical left version .. which is not as naïve and moronic as you seem to think. I don't belong to any of the radical left groups because they are naïve and moronic ..Yeah? Who provided the capital in the first place?
Or are you one of the moronic left who can't quite work out how those rich pricks got so rich but it's something to do with capital, so that's bad?
I am not against Capital as such .. but a capitalist system such as we have exploties people and removes their humanity, treating them as functions within an economic system ...
We are human beings, not just workers, or beneficiaries, or taxpayers or consumers .. those are all positions within the economic system, positioned in relation to monetary functions ..
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Bogeyman
Where everyone got what they paid for and paid for what they got?
Pretty sure I'd like that just fine.
Codswallop. An economic system doesn't "treat" people like anything, it's not a sentient entity. A capitalist economic system rewards productive performance more consistently than other systems, it's there for you to exploit, it doesn't work the other way around.
If you see the failure of the system to reward those that don't perform as exploitative then all I can say is tough shit, it's the highest performing economic system for everyone, including to poor. Expecting everyone else to forgo the opportunities it represents so that you can feel less inadequate is just a little bit selfish ain't it?
Fine, you're human, act like one. That means using the tools at hand to improve your lot. If you're failing to make that work with the superb economic tools available today then I'm not surprised if you feel a bit less than human.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
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Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
There's an Asian guy on the Act billboards, so perhaps that's him!
Also, speaking of their billboards... After Nigel Latter's programme last night they had better rethink their "Tough on crime" motto/stance.
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
Anarchic Wild Child
Fuck - this was not about me - but you made it so with your bullshit assumptions .. I do happen to earn (as I keep pointing out) in the top tax bracket and pay top tax rates .. How does that indicate I have failed to use the economic tools or how does that indicate I feel a bit less than human?
Don't go jumping to your bullshit conclusions ..
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
I am therefore I do
Nicky Hagar should get some kind of award for what he's brought forth. Yet there are those fuckwits among us who think he is somehow on the same level as the main characters in this fiasco ,who are only involved to better their own ends.
Whereas, he is doing this for the sake of our country.
If you don't think so, then look at those other countries where corruption is rife, endemic & the norm in politics & business....Imagine how more fucked up this country would be if we let that kind shit become the norm.
Don't let it happen New Zealand.
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/09/01...ur-news-media/
Last edited by puddytat; 1st September 2014 at 20:21. Reason: added shit
Bogeyman
No conclusion required:
So you're tolerably well off. Congratulations. Wasn't that difficult, was it?
So why do you feel the need to bleat about the "system" treating people inhumanely? Anyone that wants to succeed can do so more easily now than at any time in our history, and yet all I ever hear is how the "system" is to blame for people's failure.
There's no end to the quantity of wrong attached to that particular piece of bullshit.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
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Jennifer Lawrence Responds To Leaked Nude Photos
"The 24-year-old ‘Hunger Games’ star, whose personal information appears to have been hacked from iCloud and then published online via the image-posting messageboard 4chan, issued the following statement through a spokesperson:
“This is a flagrant violation of privacy. The authorities have been contacted and will prosecute anyone who posts the stolen photos of Jennifer Lawrence.”"
Some people take their privacy way too seriously.
Psyclepath
Bullshit. He's doing it for the sake of how he thinks the country should be, which is exactly what Slater is doing, holding Phil Goff to account for his lies.
Hager has taken selective bits and pieces and stitched them together to spin the story he wants to spin. If he'd wanted to do a proper investigative job on attack politics, he'd have included stuff with the various Labour factions trying to discredit each other, I'd love to know what the ABC club were leaking to Slater..
Only a homo puts an engine back together WITHOUT making it go faster.
Forum whore
Interesting.......hadn't thought of that side of things...national lite are bound to have some dirt in there.......
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
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