Northland 80 km limit?

[swbarnett]

Definitely. Skills and attitudes needs adjusting before it would be acceptable to move at much higher speeds.

And yet that's the only way to adjust them. Until there's a reason (i.e. behave or you die) nothing will change.

[Akzle]

Definitely. Skills and attitudes needs adjusting before it would be acceptable to move at much higher speeds.

i could do with more skills, but my attitude aint gonna change. And i will continue to move high on speed.

[SVboy]

i could do with more skills, but my attitude aint gonna change. And i will continue to move high on disprin, in the passenger seat of mums corolla.

Edited for realism.

[Swoop]

1) NZ Drivers lack decent road craft skills in general.
2) NZ Drivers have too much arrogance (the "I am doing 100kph so why should I move left for you?)
3) NZ Drivers generally have poor manners when they are out and about in their cars.

Totally correct. Add to that: 4) Obtained driver's licence in a cornflake's packet and now believes that he/she is capable of having more skills than any previous road user. Ever.

[Akzle]

Edited for realism.

cunt.



Its a tercel.

[rastuscat]

Wot the bloke a few posts back Sed. We all wanna go fast but think everyone else is a shit driver. So let shit drivers go faster........yeah right

[scumdog]

Wot the bloke a few posts back Sed. We all wanna go fast but think everyone else is a shit driver. So let shit drivers go faster........yeah right

Good old Kiwi logic.

And everybody NEEDS to go fast, it's important to cover that 36km (or whatever distance) trip as quick as possible, I mean that arrival several minutes early is essential, not optional.....

Apparently....

[swbarnett]

Wot the bloke a few posts back Sed. We all wanna go fast but think everyone else is a shit driver. So let shit drivers go faster........yeah right

You do realise that the only way drivers are going to get better is to let them have a longer leash? Put a spike in the sterring wheel and just watch how careful drivers become.

[swbarnett]

Good old Kiwi logic.

And everybody NEEDS to go fast, it's important to cover that 36km (or whatever distance) trip as quick as possible, I mean that arrival several minutes early is essential, not optional.....

Apparently....

You know that most of the time it has absolutely nothing to with the duration of the journey, right?

[scumdog]

You know that most of the time it has absolutely nothing to with the duration of the journey, right?

Well it does, sorta..."Can't wait another second to get past that fuckin' slow cunt, the limits 100K and he's doing 85, whoddafuck".

[oneofsix]

Well it does, sorta..."Can't wait another second to get past that fuckin' slow cunt, the limits 100K and he's doing 85, whoddafuck".

Nope, that's him not being friendly as well as breaking the law. It is frustration with a bastard not about duration of journey, know many a person that will take the long way, slower journey, to avoid bastards like your 85k driver.

[scumdog]

I was in China a couple of weeks ago - and it opened my eyes how co-operation and patience can work.
Kiwi drivers/riders could learn a lot by adopting their attitude.

But it won't work - after all in NZ "It's my bit of road and I ain't moving over or slowing down one tiny bit and if you're going slower than me well ya better get out of my way".

And before a soap-box jockeys get going there wasn't bugger all (2) crashes that I saw. And no injury.

Maybe the 'big gives way to small' might have been part of it???

[oneofsix]

I was in China a couple of weeks ago - and it opened my eyes how co-operation and patience can work.
Kiwi drivers/riders could learn a lot by adopting their attitude.

But it won't work - after all in NZ "It's my bit of road and I ain't moving over or slowing down one tiny bit and if you're going slower than me well ya better get out of my way".

And before a soap-box jockeys get going there wasn't bugger all (2) crashes that I saw. And no injury.

Maybe the 'big gives way to small' might have been part of it???

Vanuatu is much the same, no pedestrian crossings, the pedestrian stands at the side of the road waiting to cross, not enforcing their "right" and the traffic allows them to cross, again not enforcing their "right". Same when vehicles want to join or leave the flow. Come back here and a driver comes dashing out a side st forcing their way in, pedestrians, cyclists insist on their "right of way" and stupid ads. Funny how the countries with basically no rules and no revenue gathers have the working traffic systems.

[swbarnett]

Well it does, sorta..."Can't wait another second to get past that fuckin' slow cunt, the limits 100K and he's doing 85, whoddafuck".

That has nothing to do with speed. That's impatience. I agree with you - it has no place on the road.

[swbarnett]

Maybe the 'big gives way to small' might have been part of it???

Definitely. That's the same thing I saw in Switzerland and it worked well.