Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[Ulsterkiwi]

.......Their actions represent such a small group as a percentage of all other threats from bad road users that its not worth worrying about.....

That certainly makes sense from the perspective of actual data and stats derived from them. Perception is a very powerful thing though and can influence as strongly as actual evidence. If there is a perception a police officer is not dealt to by the same laws it really doesn't matter what has actually happened. Stories like http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...o-drug-charges tend to be forgotten.

So following your line of thought if the punitive outcomes for dangerous/reckless driving are not that punitive for civilians then all the more reason to be asking what happens to a Police driver's driving status if they are in a serious incident where they have been proven to have been at fault.

[scumdog]

. So lets say for the sake of argument a mistake is made which causes significant harm to people or property, is a police driver allowed to continue to be a police driver in light of that? I dont even mean some kind of permanent ban, but I can think of any number of jobs where some kind of refresher training or supervision is put in place if serious mistakes are made.

They get sent for remedial training.

Have to pass to be allowed back in the car.

[Ocean1]

Old ones.

Bosses don't like getting caught out lifting the carpet to put the lumps there these days

They never did. There's just a lot more cameras around these days.

[Ocean1]

By way of comparison: http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...120814#slide-1

[Ulsterkiwi]

They get sent for remedial training.

Have to pass to be allowed back in the car.

thank you, makes sense, acknowledges problem, try to ensure it doesnt happen again.

Now, next thought which kind of ties in to another thread running at the minute from Rastuscat about retesting for a licence. How about if a civilian were to be in a serious incident proven to be their fault that they have to undertake remedial training?

To come back to the speeding issue (before the mods think this is too off topic) what if a change in tack is taken. If the object of clamping down on speeding is not revenue collection. Why not make excessive speeders pay for and attend some kind of training course instead of a fine?

[rastuscat]

I am wondering about remedial action however. Many other professional groupings are obliged to demonstrate they are able to continue executing responsibilities to the appropriate standard. So lets say for the sake of argument a mistake is made which causes significant harm to people or property, is a police driver allowed to continue to be a police driver in light of that? I dont even mean some kind of permanent ban, but I can think of any number of jobs where some kind of refresher training or supervision is put in place if serious mistakes are made.

Each crash by emergency services (fire, ambo and popo) is collated and considered by a crash panel. Whoever attended and dealt with the incident makes a recommendation re action, but the crash panel gets to make the final call.

Certainly for us, the panel often recommends a remedial driving assessment. To be fair, the crash itself has more impact than any subsequent remedial action.

If the popo loses his/her licence, depending on the circumstances, they may also lose their job. That's potentially harsher than many jobs. In some circumstances though, that may be excessive, and the officer may be assigned to duties involving not driving. That's, again, often more penalty than the courts will issue.

It's not all swept under the carpet, despite the perception. For sure, sometimes we don't release the reasons why certain decisions are made, and that's potentially where the sweeping thing comes from.

You would be surprised how many people, not in the Police, get given the benefit of non-prosecution, in circumstances where we prosecute our own, simply for appearances sake.

Just sayin.

[rastuscat]

They do, but the problem is they get the same wet bus ticket sentances and leniency due to mitigating circumstances that joe public also enjoys too...
Their actions represent such a small group as a percentage of all other threats from bad road users that its not worth worrying about. It prob seems worse than it is as its always spectacular much how like a truck rollover represents higher news value than a car that has had same crash when the circumstances causing it may have been same.

Police cars dinged always make great shots in a paper.

Just sayin.

[scumdog]

I remember a police officer who busted me years ago for going through a red light that I had stopped at but my bike was not able to trigger the sensor got done sometime later for thieft.

Ya got done for 'thieft'?

Wazzat??

[FJRider]

Ya got done for 'thieft'?

Wazzat??

A computer illiterate with no spell check ...

[nzspokes]

I remember a police officer who busted me years ago for going through a red light that I had stopped at but my bike was not able to trigger the sensor got done sometime later for thieft.

Shame he didn't send you to remedial English lessons.

[awayatc]

The police officer got done for thieft. I felt it was Karma.

How does karma feel......?
or was karma a police officer....?
or was it karma that made the light stay red....?
or was the police officer in a karmann ghia.....?
but most of all what the fuck is thieft.......?

[Akzle]

but most of all what the fuck is thieft.......?

that's what happens when the ego can type faster than the (brain??)

[Voltaire]

that's what happens when the ego can type faster than the (brain??)

When you going to show a pic of your non existent motorcycle rob

[Akzle]

When you going to show a pic of your non existent motorcycle rob

come over for a coffee, you can see it in 3D, IRL man!!. that's gotta get you harder than anything you'll google up.

(although, seriously, and i love repeating myself because it makes you look like a fucking moron) look it up fuckknuckle.

[FJRider]

When you going to show a pic of your non existent motorcycle rob

suzuki's DO exist. Even HIS.





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