Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[scumdog]

Hang about, are you saying exceeding the speed limit doesn't kill?

Somebody sez it does??

[bogan]

Somebody sez it does??

Bloke called Barry Allen mentioned something about it...

[haydes55]

Folk exceed the speed limit hundreds of times for each time they get stopped. .

And 200,000 tickets last summer, if they sped 100s of times each for each one of those tickets that's 20 million incidents of speeding, causing less than 200 fatalities, so 0.00001% chance of being involved in a fatal accident..... And that's just those getting stopped. That's worth dedicating police efforts on only one factor in crashes.

Ticket bad driving, ticket those with a disregard for safety, but ticketing the safest drivers/riders for doing nothing unsafe is just ludicrous.

I actually don't understand the emphasis on speeding enforcement when sitting outside causes more deaths per year. It's more dangerous to cook your own dinner than speed.

[rastuscat]

And 200,000 tickets last summer, if they sped 100s of times each for each one of those tickets that's 20 million incidents of speeding, causing less than 200 fatalities, so 0.00001% chance of being involved in a fatal accident..... And that's just those getting stopped. That's worth dedicating police efforts on only one factor in crashes.

Ticket bad driving, ticket those with a disregard for safety, but ticketing the safest drivers/riders for doing nothing unsafe is just ludicrous.

I actually don't understand the emphasis on speeding enforcement when sitting outside causes more deaths per year. It's more dangerous to cook your own dinner than speed.

I guess that's the guys of it.

When everyone becomes a good driver, I will support the abolition of speed limits.

Until then I don't see the logic in us banging on about how bad we are as a nation of road users, then in the next breath decrying efforts to reduce the impact of the crashes that happen.

It's still a fact that when a crash happens, the higher the speed of the participants, the worse the crash will be.

[nzspokes]

Folk exceed the speed limit hundreds of times for each time they get stopped. Then they bang on about how unreasonable it is.

Just my humble observation.

Working on a Booze Bus checkpoint at the mo. More fun than a rattle snake down yer trousers.

Your allow to be on KB while working on the Booze Bus?

Does it have a doughnut machine?

[caspernz]

And 200,000 tickets last summer, if they sped 100s of times each for each one of those tickets that's 20 million incidents of speeding, causing less than 200 fatalities, so 0.00001% chance of being involved in a fatal accident..... And that's just those getting stopped. That's worth dedicating police efforts on only one factor in crashes.

Ticket bad driving, ticket those with a disregard for safety, but ticketing the safest drivers/riders for doing nothing unsafe is just ludicrous.

I actually don't understand the emphasis on speeding enforcement when sitting outside causes more deaths per year. It's more dangerous to cook your own dinner than speed.

Please report for brainwashing at your nearest indoctrination facility forthwith

[R650R]

And 200,000 tickets last summer, if they sped 100s of times each for each one of those tickets that's 20 million incidents of speeding, causing less than 200 fatalities, so 0.00001% chance of being involved in a fatal accident..... And that's just those getting stopped. That's worth dedicating police efforts on only one factor in crashes.

Ticket bad driving, ticket those with a disregard for safety, but ticketing the safest drivers/riders for doing nothing unsafe is just ludicrous.

I actually don't understand the emphasis on speeding enforcement when sitting outside causes more deaths per year. It's more dangerous to cook your own dinner than speed.

I guess the Red light runners and repeat drink drivers could prob use the same maths to support their case too....

[caspernz]

I guess the Red light runners and repeat drink drivers could prob use the same maths to support their case too....

Not even close. An activity that has a direct danger vs an indirect danger. Someone running thru the red becomes a bumper ornament on my 50max unit whether I'm doing 2 km/h over or under the local limit. Ditto for the drink driver.

[R650R]

Not even close. An activity that has a direct danger vs an indirect danger. Someone running thru the red becomes a bumper ornament on my 50max unit whether I'm doing 2 km/h over or under the local limit. Ditto for the drink driver.

Not every time. The other guy was talking about general speeding, eg a little 10-30k over the limit like many people do and in comparison I talk about those that run red lights like they do as normal driving in Auckland, and then the repeat drink drivers ( yes its dangerous and stupid) who don't crash every time they do it.
I was being sarcastic to a certain extent but a crash involves several factors to occur not just one.
BTW I'd expect a driver of your experience to look left and right even on green lights so he wont be under your bumper with good defensive driving.

[haydes55]

I guess the Red light runners and repeat drink drivers could prob use the same maths to support their case too....

Red light running isn't as common as speeding, and I bet red light running causes more crashes every year than speeding. So not the same. Drunk driving again different, chances of crashing when drunk is pretty high.

[GrayWolf]

Red light running isn't as common as speeding, and I bet red light running causes more crashes every year than speeding. So not the same. Drunk driving again different, chances of crashing when drunk is pretty high.

Really you are answering your own question,... speeding is COMMON, thereby easily targetable and identifiable. Red light camera's WILL be here soon enough, you can count on it.

Drunk driving, in many ways has a similar 'cultural attitude' to speeding, it was 'common practice for years' and there IS a 'drink culture' in NZ society...
AS pointed out though, alcohol IS a suppressant on the central nervous system, which is 'deadly' when mixed with a ton plus of engine powered 'road missile'.

[rastuscat]

Red light running isn't as common as speeding, and I bet red light running causes more crashes every year than speeding. So not the same. Drunk driving again different, chances of crashing when drunk is pretty high.

Look beyond the cause. A red light offence which causes a crash is worse if the parties are going faster.

Speed causes some crashes. Not many, but some. But it's a significant determinant of the outcome of every crash, caused by whatever.

Just sayin. BTW, don't rely on red light cameras to solve the problem. Given that they will be at a small number of traffic lights, they will change behavior at those junctions, and not much beyond.

[awayatc]

I guess that's the guys of it.



It's still a fact that when a crash happens, the higher the speed of the participants, the worse the crash will be.

I have had more intelligent conversations with 2 year olds......

Saddest part is that the likes of you actually believe your own drivel....
The inmates run the asylum....

[scumdog]

I have had more intelligent conversations with 2 year olds......

Saddest part is that the likes of you actually believe your own drivel....
The inmates run the asylum....

I'm with you!

A 200kph speed limit sounds about right, after all, everybody is an above average rider/driver eh!

[awayatc]

Just look at other countries,
Either speed limits have gone up, and / or policing of speed limits has been relaxed...

there are few countries in the world as anal as nz (oz maybe) regarding speed ticketing.

If you go slower you come out better of in an accident, as sole justification for this latest pogrom?.......

Common.....

is like saying if you keep your mouth shut you will upset fewer people....