Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[scumdog]

Being on the wrong side of the road and having a head on due to an overtaking miscalculation or being Johnny Foreigner are rare enough that they should not even be a concern, regardless of what the media portray.

Hmm, it has happened down here ya know...and probably would happen more often if it wasn't the *555 calls.

Which these holidays are resulting in a shitload (tm) more calls for cops to locate cars/vans overtaking on blind bends, repeatedly crossing completely to the incorrect side of the road etc etc...
Quite a few rental companys have cancelled their contract with the hirer and take their car back as a result of some of these complaints.





Having lit the fuse Scummy steps back....

[awayatc]

Just curious.........
Do these errant drivers get ticketed after such *555 calls?

[scumdog]

Just curious.........
Do these errant drivers get ticketed after such *555 calls?

A lot of the time but not always.

Seeing what happened on a Go-Pro certainly makes a difference to ticket/no ticket ratio.

[awayatc]

Am a bit thick.....
* 555 from cellphone.........

where does go pro footage fit in?

[scumdog]

Am a bit thick.....
* 555 from cellphone.........

where does go pro footage fit in?

When*555 caller sees cop has stopped the car that they complained about said caller stops and shows the cop the footage...happens a lot down here.

[awayatc]

Enlightened......


cheers.....

[BlackSheepLogic]

When*555 caller sees cop has stopped the car that they complained about said caller stops and shows the cop the footage...happens a lot down here.

I wonder how many of those were because *555 driver traveled below the limit and for safety tried to make sure everyone behind them did likewise by not getting traffic pass.

[scumdog]

I wonder how many of those were because *555 driver traveled below the limit and for safety tried to make sure everyone behind them did likewise by not getting traffic pass.

I wonder....

[R650R]

I wonder how many of those were because *555 driver traveled below the limit and for safety tried to make sure everyone behind them did likewise by not getting traffic pass.

I had an employers family member undertake me on the Auckland motorway then pull into my lane in front of me and then an unseatbelted passenger proceeded to kneel on the back seat and take photos of my truck.
Then the brake pedal dance started.... should have *555'd them at the time cause a couple of months later it got dredged up in a half hearted attempt at a telling off....
Employer quickly got told to F off and reminded of time constraints on said particular run... Nothing more come of it, still not sure whether it was deliberate entrapment or foolish attempt at cool photo....

So yes the possibility of entrapment in go pro footage exists, I would severely dispute any case unless I knew I'd done wrong. This bullshit where any tom dick and harry makes an allegation then a cop issues a ticket based on virtual hearsay evidence.... In 12 years of trucking only been stopped once regard a complaint and the cop said he had no idea at all what the complainant was going on about and that my driving was perfect...
A fellow driver got a ticket for failing to give way at roundabout in what was the normal 'push/ease your way in during rush hour', he took the $150 fine but he should have fought it as the other driver braked and created the situation...

[caspernz]

Any gopro footage from a slow driver would have to show a dangerous overtake as opposed to just any overtake for the cops to take seriously. I actually thought private camera footage could not be used for a prosecution but only for insurance purposes in the event of a crash.

First hand experience has been that any serious illegal/dangerous act captured on private camera, can be used by your local Police man for issuing a ticket to the offender. How much easier can it get?

Now that we've got the infamous Drivecam fitted in all the trucks, we can manually trip and say rego plate number out loud, follow up with a brief incident report when back at the yard. The footage comes to our driver trainer, he just passes this stuff to Police, most of those result in an infringement being issued I'm told.

Combined with GPS records, it also helps to solve the phantom complaints that some folks like to make about trucker behaviour, especially during holiday periods. The downside is that if one of us misbehaves and it's caught by a member of the public...the tables can be turned on us, and rightfully so I reckon.

[FJRider]

The downside is that if one of us misbehaves and it's caught by a member of the public...the tables can be turned on us, and rightfully so I reckon.

Carry a gun and you risk shooting yourself in the foot ...

[caspernz]

Carry a gun and you risk shooting yourself in the foot ...

Haha, the number of calls that come thru yearly...claiming one of our trucks was doing 110 clicks by Joe Public, when they're limited to 88 and the proof of actual speed can be forwarded to the complainant instantly...never gets boring the guys taking the calls say

[FJRider]

Haha, the number of calls that come thru yearly...claiming one of our trucks was doing 110 clicks by Joe Public, when they're limited to 88 and the proof of actual speed can be forwarded to the complainant instantly...never gets boring the guys taking the calls say

I drive a truck with GPS log ... similar complaints ... (to plod) to my boss ... (to attempt to cover their errors)

Instant fail ....

[speedpro]

no fucking doze control on bikes.........

2015 Honda F6b does though can't see them in NZ. Plenty of aftermarket stuff as well, proper speed control types not just a throttle lock. It's well and truly time motorcycles had cruise control. R1s have had ECU controlled throttles for ages so I'd imagine it's straight forward to include hardware/software to manage the speed.

Don't get me wrong, I totally disagree with this mindless fascination with speeding by the Police and whoever else has anything to add. I just can't see any common sense being employed by them making the rules and enforcing them, and so it's going to continue, and we may as well get used to it. The answer would seem to be to buy a bike that is good at going slow, like a Harley, and just kick back and relax. Park the ZX/R/GSXR and go play at track days, more satisfying and less risk(financially and medically).

The other more general view is that society has rules that help it work and that generally most people agree with. Crims don't obviously, and they pay the price which most people don't have a problem with.

As members of society in NZ we have expectations, such as a benefit if required to help support us if we are unfortunate enough to lose a job or whatever and lots more like driving on the left side of the road. It'd be a funny old place if you only had to obey the rules you agreed with. As members of this society we also have obligations, such as paying taxes and obeying any laws. A swings and roundabouts thing.

Yes, I'm old. Yes I've got lots of tickets for speeding in the (long distant)past + one for dangerous driving, supposedly the worst case the cop had seen in his 17years on the force. I still have a couple of bikes but nothing for the road. I have little self control so sold the last bike before my licence was plucked.

[rastuscat]

I totally disagree with this mindless fascination with speeding by the Police and whoever else has anything to add.

Now that might just be the most salient point in this whole thread.

Because the media beat the whole story up, there's a belief that we spend our lives running round looking for people doing 1 kmh over some limit.

I can speak with some authority on this one. Speed is one of our focuses, but we spend by far the majority of our time doing stuff other than speed enforcement.