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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Maybe we need a taxpayer's road fault reporting web site...
    There's actually a non taxpayers road fault reporting website... you just have to go undercover and pretend you are a cyclist
    Its amazing how fast a pothole gets fixed when you say your a cyclist instead of a truck driver
    If everyone does this eventually the repair bill will mean road cyclists will have to pay road user levy of some sort hehe....
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    There's actually a non taxpayers road fault reporting website... you just have to go undercover and pretend you are a cyclist
    Its amazing how fast a pothole gets fixed when you say your a cyclist instead of a truck driver
    If everyone does this eventually the repair bill will mean road cyclists will have to pay road user levy of some sort hehe....
    I'm a cyclist and I pay road user levies - on my two bikes and my car. My bicycle has almost no impact on the road surface, unlike the two ton cars which pay half the rego I pay on each of my motorbikes.

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    The LTSA or whatever they now call themselves...have a major hand in the road conditions. I moaned to them last year about road conditions in the central North Island - specifically gravel. Sections of rumpty, bumpy reseal with sprays of dusty grit and stones.
    A guy with from their road inspection unit entered an email dialogue with me and did agree to repair two sections of road I mentioned. They got done. When I complained that the contractor - Higgins had resealed several rural main road sections with a lumpy squirt of gravel over wet tar - he said - I know - I make no appologies for that as I can get 10 times as many repairs done if they do it that way.
    So it is done as mentioned to cut $$$ and those in authority sanction the poor surface standard.
    On our rural road about 200 metres along from our house is a small intersection they turned up to last year and did this sort of repair to. I waited til the 30kph signs were taken and went down walking the dog to check it out. The intersection was awash with stones - all small roading chip - up to 10mm deep in parts and widespread at about 5mm deep. I rang the local council - Manawatu District and moaned. Seven days later the stones were swept off the road and into the adjoining ditch..now about a foot deep with stones. The intersection surface is now breaking away and fresh chip debris is building up. They (council and Higgins) use the road too - so they must know the outcome was pathetic and choose to ignore it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    I'm a cyclist and I pay road user levies - on my two bikes and my car. My bicycle has almost no impact on the road surface, unlike the two ton cars which pay half the rego I pay on each of my motorbikes.
    Bikes do have an impact, they create an entire mini industry of cycle stores that have trucks and vans delivering goods to them daily and employees driving their cars to work there. Then there's all the extra road sweeoping due to complaints about glass.....
    Your car and motorbike regos are vehicle specific, there is no component that says contributing towards cycle use.
    Then there's the 50 odd SUV's and wagons at the country pub when the local club has their weekend rides.... so much for saving the environment....
    Do you know that green paint for cycle lanes costs about $200 per square metre.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    There's actually a non taxpayers road fault reporting website... you just have to go undercover and pretend you are a cyclist
    Its amazing how fast a pothole gets fixed when you say your a cyclist instead of a truck driver
    If everyone does this eventually the repair bill will mean road cyclists will have to pay road user levy of some sort hehe....
    Interesting. Maybe we orta hijack it.

    I was out south of Martinborough way on t'weekend, heading north on the middle road up the valley. There's a sweeping right hander 5 minutes from Feathers and the 1290's dash lit up as I rounded it, traction control trying to manage a full on two wheel drift that left a visible trench scrubbed off the surface for 6-8 metres.

    I went back to look. You could scrape the top layer off with the side of your boot. Easy. Took me fucking hours to clean the shit off the bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    1290

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    Prrrrrrrrrrrr

    That's all.

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    Yeah... what he said
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    I went back to look. You could scrape the top layer off with the side of your boot. Easy. Took me fucking hours to clean the shit off the bike.
    Used to get a product called MobiSol via Mobil oil when at Roadfrightners, best degreaser/detar ever used, takes it all off and no yellow grime left afterwards like when you try to do it with kero'.
    Not sure of its accessible to joe public but used to use it on the white GSXR wheels now and then. No problems except tyre fitters would complain wheel weights wouldn't stick to rim
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Bikes do have an impact, they create an entire mini industry of cycle stores that have trucks and vans delivering goods to them daily and employees driving their cars to work there. Then there's all the extra road sweeoping due to complaints about glass.....
    Your car and motorbike regos are vehicle specific, there is no component that says contributing towards cycle use.
    Then there's the 50 odd SUV's and wagons at the country pub when the local club has their weekend rides.... so much for saving the environment....
    Do you know that green paint for cycle lanes costs about $200 per square metre.....
    Shit- it's only $25/m2 over here......another overpriced kiwi ripoff....like the seal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Used to get a product called MobiSol via Mobil oil when at Roadfrightners, best degreaser/detar ever used, takes it all off and no yellow grime left afterwards like when you try to do it with kero'.
    Not sure of its accessible to joe public but used to use it on the white GSXR wheels now and then. No problems except tyre fitters would complain wheel weights wouldn't stick to rim
    I know an ex Mobil chemist, I'll ask him.
    Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    I'm a cyclist and I pay road user levies - on my two bikes and my car. My bicycle has almost no impact on the road surface, unlike the two ton cars which pay half the rego I pay on each of my motorbikes.
    My feelings exactly.

    I get pissed off any time someone throws that "cyclists don't pay for the roads" shit at me. It's uneducated tripe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    My feelings exactly.

    I get pissed off any time someone throws that "cyclists don't pay for the roads" shit at me. It's uneducated tripe.
    Err what...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKiwi View Post
    Err what...
    When I'm cycling people tell me cars have more right to the road because they are registered. Never mind that I pay registration for a motorcycle, three cars and two trailers. And my cycle does nil damage to the roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    And my cycle does nil damage to the roads.
    Have you seen the durability or our roads lately? Even a butterfly's fart will do damage to em.
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    Except cyclists, via cycle lanes, have their own section of the road that they pay nothing directly towards. When those same cyclists are in their cars they use main section that is paid for by them and all other motorists through the various taxes and levies. On the whole, cyclist's use of the road is paid for by motorists - whether those motorists use it or not.

    Back on topic: I guess it's easier to meet KPIs for KMs of road resurfaced in FY## by doing a cheap job, then it gets to feature in FY## +1s KPIs when they have to redo it?

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