Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[James Deuce]

Natural immunity? Why vaccinate then? as surely the survivors are already immune?

Do you miss the point deliberately, or is it a specially developed skill?

[Oscar]

Natural immunity? Why vaccinate then? as surely the survivors are already immune?

Yep, adaptive and passive immunity will keep a few alive.
In the meantime you get to hold your kids as they die.

[mashman]

You didn't read that at all. Herd immunity presupposes a vaccinated population. Those who cannot be vaccinated for sound medical reasons rely on herd immunity. It does not exist in NZ due to the roughly 30% of middle class fuckwits who don't vaccinate their kids. So they put those kids at risk deliberately. Yes, protecting my kid is their problem. So is me protecting your kid.

So despite all your waffle, you don't support social responsibility? My kid should be exposed to what is, quite frankly, an unacceptable risk profile because I can't protect him because others won't do the right thing. That is a shitty attitude, but to be expected from most people.

I did read it. After a giant cull of influenza, for instance, the population that is left must have been immune. Therefore you have, by default, herd immunity.

Oh come on, I'm advocating for the right of an individual to take whatever steps they deem necessary for their children. If that's vaccination, great... if not, then great.

I do not believe that mankind is doing all that is possible to limit the danger of some of these vaccines on the basis that they'd rather break a few eggs, coz it's too expensive to go that extra mile. I don't call that social responsibility either, but hey.

[mashman]

Do you miss the point deliberately, or is it a specially developed skill?

Sorry, what point did I miss that you wanted me to address? Perhaps you can write my answer out for me and I'll post it to avoid confusion eh?

Yep, adaptive and passive immunity will keep a few alive.
In the meantime you get to hold your kids as they die.

A few? I thought the vast majority of the people that were surrounded by the spanish flu survived?

[TheDemonLord]

Sorry, what point did I miss that you wanted me to address? Perhaps you can write my answer out for me and I'll post it to avoid confusion eh?



A few? I thought the vast majority of the people that were surrounded by the spanish flu survived?

The problem with Flu is that unlike other Viruses with higher mortality rates, it is very very transmittable, so yes only 2.5% died of Spanish flu, but I believe over 500 Million where infected....

[Oscar]

Sorry, what point did I miss that you wanted me to address? Perhaps you can write my answer out for me and I'll post it to avoid confusion eh?



A few? I thought the vast majority of the people that were surrounded by the spanish flu survived?

"..current estimates say 50–100 million people worldwide were killed"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic

This represented 3% - 6% of global population.
The infection rate was made worse by soldiers returning from the Great War.
Can you imagine what a strain like that would do now?

[Paul in NZ]

Do you miss the point deliberately, or is it a specially developed skill?

He hasn't been immunised against it

[mashman]

"..current estimates say 50–100 million people worldwide were killed"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic

This represented 3% - 6% of global population.
The infection rate was made worse by soldiers returning from the Great War.
Can you imagine what a strain like that would do now?

I can imagine what a strain like that would do now. It would likely kill 3% - 6% of the population. Seems that we've survived similar.

He hasn't been immunised against it

lol... nor would I want to be, given the evidence for like

[Ocean1]

He hasn't been immunised against it

Special circumstances. Whining pommy cunts represent a pathogen in their own right.

There is an innoculant, but some choose not to apply it.

[Oscar]

I can imagine what a strain like that would do now. It would likely kill 3% - 6% of the population. Seems that we've survived similar.

It didn't kill 3% to 6% of the population it touched, it killed that portion of the global population.
If everything was equal, it would kill a higher proportion just due to increased global travel.

[Oscar]

Special circumstances. Whining pommy cunts represent a pathogen in their own right.

There is an innoculant, but some choose not to apply it.

Hey!
I'm a pommy cunt!

[Akzle]

As it happens, I was in an IHC workshop the week before last, so I have had a look for myself. And yes, it was full of intellectually handicapped people.

and they let you out???

[mashman]

It didn't kill 3% to 6% of the population it touched, it killed that portion of the global population.
If everything was equal, it would kill a higher proportion just due to increased global travel.

Yes, that's what I said.
Quite possibly true.

[Oscar]

Yes, that's what I said.
Quite possibly true.

It's not what you said.
Make up your mind.

[Akzle]

fuken ell. Humans arent worth saving.