When is capital punishment ever justifiable?

[swarfie]

Whats with the name suppression?

Was he out on semi home detention with an ankle bracelet?

Bracelet should have been around that arseholes neck...frigging dropkick....don't get me started Volty.
As for the name suppression, what sort of a system allows us to see the prick on TV but not be allowed to know his name? My guess is there's more charges to be laid against him. Lets hope the judge isn't a soft cock.

Indeed,shame all the do-gooder pc fucks are not capable of realizing that theres some born with no hope and simply dragging the cunt outta the courthouse and ending it for all with a simple blow to the head with a mallet would be a suitable ending,the option of a member of the victims family doing the honours would be a nice touch,jesus we could even put the media to some good use with live coverage possibly at 7 so as to avoid Hoskings endless fucking about with his collar.

+1 and then +1 again. Did you see the throw his tanty in the courtroom? (or at least hear him) and storm off to the cells.....hope the fucker rots there. He only deserves a mallet blow.

Heart felt sympathy to the victims family.

[98tls]

Bracelet should have been around that arseholes neck...frigging dropkick....don't get me started Volty.
As for the name suppression, what sort of a system allows us to see the prick on TV but not be allowed to know his name? My guess is there's more charges to be laid against him. Lets hope the judge isn't a soft cock.


+1 and then +1 again. Did you see the throw his tanty in the courtroom? (or at least hear him) and storm off to the cells.....hope the fucker rots there. He only deserves a mallet blow.

Heart felt sympathy to the victims family.

Didnt see it but can imagine.Must have been a pleasing sight to the coppers involved.

[Cracker]

This fella has done a lot of damage and I admire how the Chinese handle these cases with an inexpensive court and quick death.

[Laava]

He is just misunderstood. Apart from the stabbing, everything else was accidental.

[gammaguy]

laudafinem.com/2015/05/22/blessie-gotingco-another-dangerous-monitored-parolee-left-unsupervised-to-rape-and-murder/

[RDJ]

I think the killer of that poor lady Blessie has earned a death sentence. There is no point in putting him in prison for 30+ years, because he'll be out in less than 10. He has no remorse, no regrets, no apologies, and no excuses. The only thing worse than killing him by state execution is setting him free to kill again. Many years ago I heard something which made me think - "if you support the death penalty, would you be prepared to press the button to execute that penalty?" Yes. For this person / killer, I would press the button personally.

Thinking about the men who have just been executed for drug offences, I wondered why anyone would put themselves in that position knowing the consequences. Regardless of whether you agre with a country's right to impose capital punishment surely you would not flout their laws when you could end up on the wrong side of them?
It got me thinking about whether there is any crime that is bad enough to warrant someone's life being taken. Oh sure, human nature is such that when you personalise the effects of heinous crimes (e.g. "what if it happened to my son/sister/uncle/daughter") our grief would demand justice or revenge, depending on how noble you wanted to be.
But is there really a line which can be drawn in the sand to say at what point a crime crosses over into the ultimate punishment bracket?
My heart goes out to the families who now have to grieve not only for what their sons have done but also now they've lost their lives as a consequence.

What crimes do you feel are bad enough to deserve execution?

[RDJ]

IIRC the reason a firing squad is used instead of a single executioner is to allow the shooters the option of telling themselves they didn't kill them.
It also meant in the early days that a single objector could elect to miss.

From my understanding this is entirely correct. In places like Singapore for example with the occasional Buddhist conscientious objector, people could aim to miss, but the criminal would still be dead. If as part of the firing squad you didn't want to be potentially responsible for the death, you could point your rifle to the side and no one would ever know. I also heard (but cannot swear this is true) that not everybody in the assigned squad had a live round... one person had a blank.

[gammaguy]

From my understanding this is entirely correct. In places like Singapore for example with the occasional Buddhist conscientious objector, people could aim to miss, but the criminal would still be dead. If as part of the firing squad you didn't want to be potentially responsible for the death, you could point your rifle to the side and no one would ever know. I also heard (but cannot swear this is true) that not everybody in the assigned squad had a live round... one person had a blank.

Singapore does not use the firing squad

They use the long drop hanging method

[Laava]

Singapore does not use the firing squad

They use the long drop hanging method

I wouldn't hang him in the long drop. I'd let him go!

[RDJ]

I believe you are correct - the current method is hanging. When I was first there, there was still the firing squad option. Whatever gets it done...

[gammaguy]

I believe you are correct - the current method is hanging. When I was first there, there was still the firing squad option. Whatever gets it done...

The long drop works well......quick and painless....a nice snap is heard to confirm dispatch,much better than the old british method of strangulation by hanging

Singapore is a very efficient country,I am proud to ljve there,knowing that scumbags such as the waste of space that so callously murdered an innocent mpther and wife would not get away with such actions.

New Zealand has a hell of a long way to go in its criminal justice system,but from where it is now the only way is up.

[husaberg]

The long drop works well......quick and painless....a nice snap is heard to confirm dispatch,much better than the old british method of strangulation by hanging

Singapore is a very efficient country,I am proud to ljve there,knowing that scumbags such as the waste of space that so callously murdered an innocent mpther and wife would not get away with such actions.

New Zealand has a hell of a long way to go in its criminal justice system,but from where it is now the only way is up.

I think the Brits perfected the neck snap drop, I would say that where Singapore would have got it from.
The original drop method sometimes resulted in to many decapitations so a different formula with a smaller calculated force to break the neck was calculated by an Irish doctor this was called I think the calculated drop.
They were both methods calculated to break the neck but the original one it would seem figured in too much force.
I googled and Singapore use the revised tables as produced by the Brits in 1913.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Table_of_Drops

The execution technique of hanging, introduced by the Angle, Saxon, and Jute Germanic tribes during their invasions of the Roman Empire and Britain in the 5th century, has remained largely unchanged over time. The earliest form of a gallows was a tree on which prisoners were hanged. Despite the introduction of several modifications such as a trap door, the main mechanism of death remained asphyxiation. This created the opportunity for attempted revival after the execution, and indeed several well-known cases of survival following judicial hanging have been reported. It was not until the introduction of the standard drop by Dr. Samuel Haughton in 1866, and the so-called long drop by William Marwood in 1872 that hanging became a standard, humane means to achieve instantaneous death. Hangmen, however, fearing knot slippage, started substituting the subaural knot for the traditional submental knot. Subaural knots were not as effective, and cases of decapitation were recorded. Standardization of the long drop was further propagated by John Berry, an executioner who used mathematical calculations to estimate the correct drop length for each individual to be hanged. A British committee on capital sentences, led by Lord Aberdare, studied the execution method, and advocated for the submental knot. However, it was not until Frederic Wood-Jones published his seminal work in 1913 that cervical fractures were identified as the main mechanism of death following hanging in which the long drop and a submental knot were used. Schneider introduced the term "hangman's fracture" in 1965, and reported on the biomechanics and other similarities of the cervical fractures seen following judicial hangings and those caused by motor vehicle accidents

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21184637
It seems Iran uses strangulation hanging though.

[mossy1200]

They use the long drop hanging method

Hung by the feet with head submerged in a long drop. Interesting but a little inhumane. You wouldn't want be sentenced on curry night.

[eldog]

If you have a loved one who is normally good with bills and they suddenly stop paying bills and cancel insurances, post box etc. it may be time to reach out to them.

look around a crowded room you can sometimes spot them, but those closest to them cant see it.

I saw one last weekend, tried to take his life that night. (he survived but for how long?)

Not much you can do sometimes but watch the train wreck unfold. I have seen several.

[scumdog]

laudafinem.com/2015/05/22/blessie-gotingco-another-dangerous-monitored-parolee-left-unsupervised-to-rape-and-murder/

Read it (at speed I admit).

The writer bags the cops, blaming them for idiot-boys actions - I'm not sure why as I did not see any comment outlining WHY it was the fault of NZ Police.