My first poll for the NZ public

**mashman** · 27th May 2015, 18:19

Originally Posted by bogan

The information you post conflicts itself, the conflict is within you. Instead of resolving that conflict you seek to suppress the symptoms by not posting information.

To you it does yes. To me, and quite possibly to others, there is no conflict whatsoever. Ok, so I tell you that the information is there, and you tell me that it isn't. See, we've been here many times before and you simply refuse to make a leap of understanding because you are allowing perceived negatives to hold you back. This is evidenced by you openly admitting that you don't understand what I mean when I talk of hammers etc... Kinda fuckin stupid given that gold exists, or perhaps diamonds, or a platinum coin etc... that has value that is obviously open to abuse.

Amusingly enough (I'd get infracted for the size of irony image I'd like to post), that failed leap is due to you focusing entirely on the negatives of the idea.

**mashman** · 27th May 2015, 18:22

Originally Posted by bogan

Why abuse them though?

The abuse is entirely your perception. However, I choose to respond to you how I choose to respond to you... big bad sweary words n all.

**mashman** · 27th May 2015, 18:24

Originally Posted by bogan

So what do you hope to accomplish with that sort of remark?

I guess he could have posted an irony picture or pot kettle black or glass houses or sommet.

**Maha** · 27th May 2015, 18:26

Originally Posted by bogan

So what do you hope to accomplish with that sort of remark?

For you to keep stroking his over inflated view of self importance on here.

**Katman** · 27th May 2015, 18:27

Originally Posted by Maha

For you to keep stroking his over inflated view of self importance on here.

**bogan** · 27th May 2015, 18:29

Originally Posted by mashman

To you it does yes. To me, and quite possibly to others, there is no conflict whatsoever. Ok, so I tell you that the information is there, and you tell me that it isn't. See, we've been here many times before and you simply refuse to make a leap of understanding because you are allowing perceived negatives to hold you back. This is evidenced by you openly admitting that you don't understand what I mean when I talk of hammers etc... Kinda fuckin stupid given that gold exists, or perhaps diamonds, or a platinum coin etc... that has value that is obviously open to abuse.

Amusingly enough (I'd get infracted for the size of irony image I'd like to post), that failed leap is due to you focusing entirely on the negatives of the idea.

If shared understanding is your goal, why do you not re-iterate what has been said in the past though? I often find my own understanding of a subject increases when explaining it to others; both from the input of others, and learning to frame such information in a way others will understand. That is why I think very little can be done without a solid base of shared understanding.

Originally Posted by mashman

The abuse is entirely your perception. However, I choose to respond to you how I choose to respond to you... big bad sweary words n all.

Absolutely it is, but when someone perceives another to be abusing them, it is a barrier to sharing information and understanding. You may perceive that as a problem of their own making, but regardless of that, it inhibits the progress of that understanding; and to what end?

**Katman** · 27th May 2015, 18:32

Originally Posted by bogan

If shared understanding is your goal, why do you not re-iterate what has been said in the past though?

You have repeatedly shown you're not remotely interested in examining any information presented to you that opposes your viewpoint.

**bogan** · 27th May 2015, 18:39

Originally Posted by Katman

You have repeatedly shown you're not remotely interested in examining any information presented to you that opposes your viewpoint.

See that is not my understanding. To support my viewpoint I would say that I ask many questions about presented information, usually starting with its veracity, its scope, etc; precisely so I can gain the most understanding about said information.

**Katman** · 27th May 2015, 18:51

Originally Posted by bogan

See that is not my understanding. To support my viewpoint I would say that I ask many questions about presented information, usually starting with its veracity, its scope, etc; precisely so I can gain the most understanding about said information.

Are you schizophrenic?

**bogan** · 27th May 2015, 18:54

Originally Posted by Katman

Are you schizophrenic?

No.

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**Katman** · 27th May 2015, 18:57

Originally Posted by bogan

No.

So why are you not even remotely interested in viewing any information if it happens to have been uploaded to youtube?

**bogan** · 27th May 2015, 18:58

Originally Posted by Katman

So why are you not even remotely interested in viewing any information if it happens to have been uploaded to youtube?

Because it is near impossible to establish the veracity and scope of such information.

**Katman** · 27th May 2015, 19:01

Originally Posted by bogan

Because it is near impossible to establish the veracity and scope of such information.

What's wrong with viewing the information and then doing some research into the veracity of that information?

Or is that too much hard work?

**bogan** · 27th May 2015, 19:03

Originally Posted by Katman

What's wrong with viewing the information and then doing some research into the veracity of that information?

Or is that too much hard work?

I beleive that is a job for the person posting the information.

Because yes, it is too much hard work. There simply isn't enough hours in the day to research all information presented in such forms, there is time however, to do such research on the information one presents themselves...