The fascist regime that made you a moron: Thanks dJonkey

[Brian d marge]

Yet I have started reading (I had started well before you set me such a task) which is why I saw the similarities between zionism and what you blokes were going on about.

So I ask again, what are your reasons for them being bad mens? Or are you hopping on the cop out train of 'go away and do some research until you agree with me'

Ehhhhhhhh
Zionism and what we are talking about
We might be at crossed communications here

Can you elaborate

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[husaberg]

Ive just been reading the post YOU posted in gene pool i think the thread was titled and was quoted earlier

What side you on willis

I dont care either way but i should quote your post as a good place to start to support my stance

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It would be rather fun if you did try and use it to explain how this exact same rhetoric and racial hate that I pointed out there, (with actual examples) and parallels to what was being spewed out here and now, didn't lead to millions of innocent people dying 75 years ago. So Stephen be my guest.

I am still waiting for Oldie to answer stuff from ten plus pages ago.

[Brian d marge]

It would be rather fun if you did try and use it to explain how this exact same rhetoric and racial hate that I pointed out there was actual examples and parallels to what was being spewed out here and now didn't lead to millions of innocent people dying 75 years ago. Be my guest

Ill see if i can cut and paste on this phone

Just as an aside
If there are 1440 min in a day and the war 6 years
My uncle took 20 min incl coffin

With modern tech

I roughly 157 000 were creamated

Numbers just aint stacking up


Anyway ill try and quote your post

Hang on

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[Brian d marge]

It would be rather fun if you did try and use it to explain how this exact same rhetoric and racial hate that I pointed out there, (with actual examples) and parallels to what was being spewed out here and now, didn't lead to millions of innocent people dying 75 years ago. So Stephen be my guest.
.

I think you will find that most of the Jewish that were killed in Poland also were Poles.
Odd that you don't consider this.
You will also find none of the bodies are clearly identified as being Jewish, either likely because it is irrelevant what nationality they are.

Yet you readily leap up and attempt to use it as an opportunity to defend and minimise what occurred.
All the civilians be they Russian, Poles, Slavs, Gypsies, dwarves, the handicapped, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, deaf and blind persons, chronic alcoholics, drug users
That were executed or died through malnourishment forced labour or disease I am sure found it very inconvenient.
Untermensch
This concept included Jews, Roma and Sinti (Gypsies), non-Europeans, and Slavic peoples such as Poles, Serbs, Russians, Czechs, and Slovaks
Nazi propaganda in October 1939 told Germans to view all ethnic Poles, Gypsies (Romani) and Jews on the same level as Untermenschen.
The exact same reasons for the elimination of the Jews they gave then. Are coincidently exactly what that you spew forth so readily now.
Some examples of how lacking in any form or originality your views really are.


(no,like, seriously, actually, jews copyrighted that shit so no other slaughtered or oppressed peoples can use that word) but yeah. Pale folk have been a raping others for fuken days.[/QUOTE]
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Hitler's infamous speech to the Reichstag on January 30, 1939: “If international Jewish financiers inside and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war then the result will not be the…victory of Jewry but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe.”
Hitler presented the Jews as behind all of Germany's moral and economic problems

He blamed "money-grubbing Jews" for all of Germany's economic problems

Anti-capitalist propaganda, touching on usury, would use anti-semitic elements from the association of Jews with money-lenders.

Exploiting pre-existing images and stereotypes, Nazi propagandists portrayed Jews as an “alien race” that fed off the host nation, poisoned its culture, seized its economy, and enslaved its workers and farmers.
Jews were attacked as the embodiment of capitalism "interest slavery", used the association of Jews with money-lenders

Jews were depicted as have undue representation in the professions such as laywers doctors Journalists and bankers

America’s entry into the war given that the Jews were behind it.
t war!

Hitler declared America as a "mongrel nation", grown too rich too soon and governed by a capitalist elite with strong ties to the Jews.


Prior to the invasion of Poland, a major anti-Polish campaign was launched, asserting such claims as forced labor of ethnic Germans, persecution of them, Polish disorder, Poles provoking border incidents, and aggressive intentions from its government.Newspapers wrote copiously on depicted Polish ethnic Germans as deeply persecuted and the invasion as necessary to protect them


The Reichstag fire was attributed to a Jewish conspiracy.

Instructions for propaganda speakers directed them to claim that anti-semitism was rising throughout the world.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-conflict.html
.[/QUOTE]
http://research.calvin.edu/german-pr.../responses.htm
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005274
http://www.holocaustresearchproject....e/nazprop.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Themes_in_Nazi_propaganda


That is what you wrote

[bogan]

Ehhhhhhhh
Zionism and what we are talking about
We might be at crossed communications here

Can you elaborate

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You said there were bad men, with some jewish connotation a while back (the context being that if only I read into it, I might not be so quick to condemn anti-semites). Pressed on the issue you now say it is zionism (or some zionists?) that is inherently bad. But you've not said much about the whys.

[Brian d marge]

You said there were bad men, with some jewish connotation a while back (the context being that if only I read into it, I might not be so quick to condemn anti-semites). Pressed on the issue you now say it is zionism (or some zionists?) that is inherently bad. But you've not said much about the whys.

Please please at least be familiar with the topic before replying

Wtf do you think zionism is

Fr gawd sake just google it

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[oldrider]

All dependent upon protection by the myth of anti-Semitism and the ignorance of the masses! (Goyim - non Jew etc) Still stronger than ever today!

Hitler's Germany dared to expose them by controlling Germany's own money system and are still paying the price for that "crime" today!

Thanks again to mass ignorance of the Gentile or non Jew and the perpetuation of the anti-Semitic myth! Time to wake up?

Reply for husaberg -

IMO - Anti-Semitism was fostered and created by Zionists to protect themselves and their actions from ever being publicly questioned - as demonstrated here on KB!

There is ample supporting material but you are not prepared to accept or consider any links that suggest or support this opinion!

The world at large is not automatically or widely anti-Semitic and I suggest that it is a self perpetuated myth - that it is!

Much like the six million figure bandied around well before and after the WW2: https://www.radioislam.org/islam/eng...llion_myth.htm

The Holocaust itself is not mythical but I do question the (precise) number claimed and why that number is always quoted? - is to simply fulfil scripture?

[husaberg]

Ill see if i can cut and paste on this phone

Just as an aside
If there are 1440 min in a day and the war 6 years
My uncle took 20 min incl coffin

With modern tech

I roughly 157 000 were creamated

Numbers just aint stacking up


Anyway ill try and quote your post

Hang on

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They also had a number of well documented burial pits and huge outdoor cremation pits. These were common in a lot of different locations.
They were also cremating multiple corpse's at the same time. They even had a system worked out with the most efficient loading patterns.
Auschwitz had over 5 separate crematoriums complex's.
They were not doing it to the standards of a modern crematorium. Most of the time taken to cremate a body is in the last time it takes to burn the bones this was not an issue as it was not a problem just to put another body in. emember it was a mass disposal system they were not concerned with getting remains mixed up they also used to smash up the bone remains also lastly lots of the victims were children as well. Next

[husaberg]

Reply for husaberg -

IMO - Anti-Semitism was fostered and created by Zionists to protect themselves and their actions from ever being publicly questioned - as demonstrated here on KB!

There is ample supporting material but you are not prepared to accept or consider any links that suggest or support this opinion!

The world at large is not automatically or widely anti-Semitic and I suggest that it is a self perpetuated myth - that it is!

Much like the six million figure bandied around well before and after the WW2: https://www.radioislam.org/islam/eng...llion_myth.htm

The Holocaust itself is not mythical but I do question the (precise) number claimed and why that number is always quoted? - is to simply fulfil scripture?

Why is the number so important when it is in the millions does that make any difference to why it occurred and that it occurred.
As i have said the exact same reasoning for the holocaust is what is being used here co-incidence what happened last time.

I will give you the same question as you have not answered it

All dependent upon protection by the myth of anti-Semitism

The myth of anti Semitism?. I would like an explanation of this comment Oldie, is it just a myth were Jews and other religions ever striped of nationality or persecuted or prevented from owning land or had all there assets seized. Was this all really just a myth?

Seems they were treated pretty much like we here in NZ treated the Chinese in the goldrush.
There is also strong parallels with how the Australian aborigines were also treated.
The treatment of the American Indians seems eerily similar also.
This is not even comparing the treatment of the Black South Africans.
Or the white Zimbabwean's or the native Zimbabwean's a hundred or so years prior to this.

[Brian d marge]

Why is the number so important when it is in the millions does that make any difference to why it occurred and that it occurred.
As i have said the exact same reasoning for the holocaust is what is being used here co-incidence what happened last time.

I will give you the same question as you have not answered it

You are right

Even if one person died thats enough


But when the number is being used to push an agenda

Now its a different kettle of fish

There were 500 000 brits and 600 000 germans killed at the battle of the somme

Nah something aint right


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[husaberg]

You are right

Even if one person died thats enough


But when the number is being used to push an agenda

Now its a different kettle of fish



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I think you will find there is another agenda that is being pushed here Stephen.
The exact same one that resulted in millions of innocent people dying previously.
One that relies on tarring a whole race for the deed allegedly committed by a few.

ps you did a shit job of pasting that post of mine.

[bogan]

Please please at least be familiar with the topic before replying

Wtf do you think zionism is

Fr gawd sake just google it

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Religion, one specifically concerned with the holy land.

Why do you keep telling me to google what I already have instead of giving a straight answer? Do you fear for the validity of how you've formed your own opinion?

[Brian d marge]

Religion, one specifically concerned with the holy land.

Why do you keep telling me to google what I already have instead of giving a straight answer? Do you fear for the validity of how you've formed your own opinion?

Because cause yiur replies suggest you havent a fking clue

Can i not be any clearer

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[Brian d marge]

I think you will find there is another agenda that is being pushed here Stephen.
The exact same one that resulted in millions of innocent people dying previously.
One that relies on tarring a whole race for the deed allegedly committed by a few.

ps you did a shit job of pasting that post of mine.

Im on a phone in restraurant

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[husaberg]

Im on a phone in restraurant

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What sort. Also is there karaoke.