Oh dear

[caspernz]

I'm sure she'll star in a, ahem, remake of The Graduate.

Footage already shot no doubt, just needs editing

[oldrider]

This really is a fucked up world! -

[TheDemonLord]

Gotta love that consistency of sentancing - whilst as one who has been a 15 year old male - Head is Head, this is still statutary rape - would we be carrying on the way we are if a 40 year old male was going down on a 15 year old girl?

she pretty much got a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket for a crime that if the roles were reversed would be prison time.

[R650R]

It doesn't say though if she blew him or if she forced him to munch some manky old carpet....

Or maybe the poor fella found out the other part of the deal when you get a blowie... having to mow the lawns (I mean real mow the lawns) or vacumn the house, put out the garbage, chores etc.... but without pocket money, he would have felt robbed over a deal like that!!!

Poor bugger is going to be bullied like hell, word will get out sadly. No matter what the circumstances, feel sorry for him its gone public like that.... be interesting to know more about the whole saga...

[unstuck]

for a crime that if the roles were reversed would be prison time.

I thought she got 15yrs?

[Big Dog]

I thought she got 15yrs?

Suspended sentence with 2 years probation. She has to go to jail on weekends for the duration of her probation.
46 weekends, no doubt at one of the country club type facilities.

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[Big Dog]

Gotta love that consistency of sentancing - whilst as one who has been a 15 year old male - Head is Head, this is still statutary rape - would we be carrying on the way we are if a 40 year old male was going down on a 15 year old girl?

she pretty much got a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket for a crime that if the roles were reversed would be prison time.

I hear you regarding the gender inequality. Difference being frame of mind. I doubt he felt raped or even violated.
Even as a father I wouldn't feel the same ire about this happening to one of my boys as one of my girls provided they weren't coerced. Mainly because of how differently each gender perceives such things.

I'm sure to some that makes me a bad dad. To me that makes me a realist. I have known too many boys who set out to seduce older women at that age who suddenly changed their tunes when confronted to take this story at face value.

Don't get me wrong if my child (of either gender) came to me and said I have been raped / violated I would be fair furious and someone would pay.

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[TheDemonLord]

I hear you regarding the gender inequality. Difference being frame of mind. I doubt he felt raped or even violated.

I agree somewhat with your points, but we have to ask if he would know if he was being taken advantage of? The concept of the Age of Consent is to protect those who can manipulated by people in positions of power against this - even IF he didn't feel violated - she would know what she is doing is against the law.

Even as a father I wouldn't feel the same ire about this happening to one of my boys as one of my girls provided they weren't coerced. Mainly because of how differently each gender perceives such things.

I'm sure to some that makes me a bad dad. To me that makes me a realist. I have known too many boys who set out to seduce older women at that age who suddenly changed their tunes when confronted to take this story at face value.

I don't think it makes you a bad dad per se, as I would feel somewhat similar (again I have been a 15 year old male, I know what my reaction would be...) but at the same time, even if the Kid felt 'Score!' she broke the law, she must have known she was breaking the law and she should have the same penalty for breaking the same laws that her Male counterparts would.

Don't get me wrong if my child (of either gender) came to me and said I have been raped / violated I would be fair furious and someone would pay.

You and me both - there would not be towels enough in this world to soak up all the blood.

[Drew]

When he gets older, the kids only regret will be that he told anyone. He will not suffer adverse psychological effect. Christ, girls of 15 are losing their virginity a lot. Have been for some time, most of them are no more messed up than they already were.

[TheDemonLord]

When he gets older, the kids only regret will be that he told anyone. He will not suffer adverse psychological effect. Christ, girls of 15 are losing their virginity a lot. Have been for some time, most of them are no more messed up than they already were.

There is an awful lot of certainty in that statement?

by your logic then the age of consent should be done away with?

I am interested however on what your stance on Pedophilia is? at what point does what she did become a crime (in your opinion)? 14? 13? 12? 11? 10?

[Drew]

There is an awful lot of certainty in that statement?

by your logic then the age of consent should be done away with?

I am interested however on what your stance on Pedophilia is? at what point does what she did become a crime (in your opinion)? 14? 13? 12? 11? 10?

I am all for the age of consent being the threshold, and I encourage kids to wait it out further still.

But I doubt very much that the boy in question was unwilling, or didn't understand what happened.

If a 40 year old man had sex with my daughter, I'd beat seven shades of shit out of him. Prolly end up in jail myself. But I'd go apeshit at my daughter too. I'd try to make her understand that it wasn't right. I'd do the same for my boy, minus the beating up a woman. But I wouldn't expect the kids to be scarred by any of it, or have lasting issues.

There are 16/17/18 year old kids, who I would call someone a pedophile for having sex with. There are 15 year olds too though, whos sex partenrs I would describe differently. That's prolly gonna be a very unpopular opinion, but you asked.

[awa355]

About 10 years ago a local (Waikato) woman got pissed at a family piss up and gave her 15 yr old stepson a BJ. He was skiteing about it to his mates. One of them then hit the lady up for the same, she told him where to go, he packed a sad, told someone else and the woman ended up with a 3 year sentence.

[TheDemonLord]

But I doubt very much that the boy in question was unwilling, or didn't understand what happened.

What if the boy WAS unwilling and we are presuming his complicity? and furthermore if he didn't understand what happened - surely that is grounds for it to be considered Rape (if one cannot give consent due to a lack of comprehension, then its Rape)?

If a 40 year old man had sex with my daughter, I'd beat seven shades of shit out of him. Prolly end up in jail myself. But I'd go apeshit at my daughter too. I'd try to make her understand that it wasn't right. I'd do the same for my boy, minus the beating up a woman. But I wouldn't expect the kids to be scarred by any of it, or have lasting issues.

I have 2 issues here: If violence is the appropriate response (I'm not saying it isn't here) then it should be meted out equally regardless of the perpetrators gender.

the second issue is a more philosophical one: You are effectively giving women a legal excuse for pedophilia that you don't extend to men - you are granting them a privilege that you aren't extending to men - and isn't that the very definition of Sexism? I don't believe that you would consider yourself sexist, but you are treating men and women differently based solely on their Chromosomes.

I'm picking on this as this is something that fucks me off - there are areas in society where women get the short end of the stick, and we are constantly reminded about these areas and how repressed women are in the western world and how they are still second class citizens to men (although that is up for debate)

yet there are areas where men get the short end of the stick and these are largely ignored or justified or (and this is the most insidious one) labelled as misogyny when someone tries to do something about it.

End of Rant: Treat men and women equally (in the eyes of the law)

There are 16/17/18 year old kids, who I would call someone a pedophile for having sex with. There are 15 year olds too though, whos sex partenrs I would describe differently. That's prolly gonna be a very unpopular opinion, but you asked.

Actually it's an entirely reasonable opinion - there are some 15 year olds who maturity wise are lightyears ahead of even some 20 year olds, and vice versa - the sad fact is that the law has to be a blanket covering based on a bell curve distribution

[Drew]

Violence is undoubtedly not a correct response to very many things. Sexual abuse is one of the things though. My opinion only of course.

Call it sexism if ya like. I'll wear it. Fact is that it is a diff3rent thing for a woman to take advantage of a boy, than for a man to take advantage of a girl. The physical side of things for a girl has an entirely different effect psychologically. They are being penetrated, and that is not something I think I'll ever know anything about. It is however well documented to mean that sex represents something completely different between the genders.

Sexism? Possibly. I see it as two different things, created by a single event though.

Equality can only be a reality if two people are doing the same thing, and that just ain't my understanding of sex.

[nodrog:Me]

..... They are being penetrated, and that is not something I think I'll ever know anything about. .....

we can fix that,