Black Sunday?

[Moise]

Actually, driving / riding standards would need to be getting worse to account for the increases.

[Tazz]

or the general driving and or riding skill level in NZ is shit.

and thus the current program is ineffective at targeting that

From a quick look at the vague info of 3 crashes, one was failing to take a corner, one was getting taken out by a spastic overtaking in the opposite direction and another was someone not following at a safe distance.
How they think hiding behind shrubs on long straights is going to solve those kind of mistakes is beyond me.

[Moise]

Speed and alcohol, speed and alcohol. Sounds a little like an Oasis song.

That's the message though. Slow down and don't drink, and you'll be safe.

[Banditbandit]

Actually, driving / riding standards would need to be getting worse to account for the increases.

No - just a population increase with no increased level of skill ... that would give a basic data set showing increasing road carnage .. As a %age of the population road deaths may or may not be increasing .. ...

[rastuscat]

Speed and alcohol, speed and alcohol. Sounds a little like an Oasis song.

That's the message though. Slow down and don't drink, and you'll be safe.

Irony. In a few short words you summed up my motivation for jacking the job in.

I used to work in Road Policing. Now I work in Road Safety.

[Swoop]

I've not seen so high death frequency before this Sunday. Or is it seasonable?

It is the season to die.
Sadly it happens every year on the roads about this time, but it is a little later this year.

or the general driving and or riding skill level in NZ is shit.

Correct.

Even shitter if you are an asian tourist...

Actually, driving / riding standards would need to be getting worse to account for the increases.

They are. Over the past month the amount of instances I've personally noticed cannot be simply leveled at "the approaching silly-season".
Luckily I note that the filth are regurgitating the "4kmh enforcement" propaganda bollocks.

[Tazz]

They are. Over the past month the amount of instances I've personally noticed cannot be simply leveled at "the approaching silly-season".
Luckily I note that the filth are regurgitating the "4kmh enforcement" propaganda bollocks.

Same for me. All fucking locals too. Most people aren't perfect but can at least get around without hitting anyone because they have a bit of skill, rather than other avoiding getting taken out by them because of their own skill which seems to be more the case these days (if that makes sense)

[EJK]

Same for me. All fucking locals too. Most people aren't perfect but can at least get around without hitting anyone because they have a bit of skill, rather than other avoiding getting taken out by them because of their own skill which seems to be more the case these days (if that makes sense)

Like these Chinese?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/new...r-arthurs-pass

Ridiculous! That idiot tree should've kept to the speed limit!

[Tazz]

Like these Chinese?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/new...r-arthurs-pass

That tree wasn't paying enough attention

Yeah they've made the news. No mention of someone a friend who passed out coughing because coke (the drink kind, so unexpected ) went up their nose which 'made' them have a head on, luckily minor.
Paper would be all over that shit if he was a foreign national.

Even the motorcycle crashes, if any of those riders were foreign tourists there would be a circus about it.

Lastly, are reporters getting that bad they have to say a tow truck was used to tow a wreck? Da faq? Of course it was, and who the hell cares.
Hmm, I am thinking about making a career change...

[nodrog:Me]

or the general driving and or riding skill level in NZ is shit.

apart from mine, mine is awesome.

[jasonu]

apart from mine, mine is awesome.

So's mine mate and everyone else on the road is either going too fast or too slow and is an idiot!

[nodrog:Me]

So's mine mate and everyone else on the road is either going too fast or too slow and is an idiot!

every time I'm on the road, everybody else is going the wrong way down the motorway.

[AllanB]

Annoying thing is that poor bastards like the guy last week stopped at the lights 4WD at speed behind him does not stop. Image on Stuff was chilling as the 4WD was halfway up the car in front - remember there was a motorcycle in between. Or the head on last weekend (bike in the right).

All these get stuffed into the motorcycles are evil category of ACC. Guess it will be on the rise again ......

Still been that way forever- won't change as not enough give a shit.

Just be careful out there.

[Daffyd]

I know I'm likely to be pilloried for this. I also know that in all of the incidents on Sunday the biker was not at fault, AFAIK.

However, a factor that is never mentioned is the fact that bikes, especially sprotbikes, are becoming more powerful and faster.

Is their performance outgrowing the abilities of their riders? Do riders need to look in the mirror and ask that person, "Do I have the skills and the reactions necessary to safely ride this bike in any road conditions?"

[nodrog:Me]

I know I'm likely to be pilloried for this. I also know that in all of the incidents on Sunday the biker was not at fault, AFAIK.

However, a factor that is never mentioned is the fact that bikes, especially sprotbikes, are becoming more powerful and faster.

Is their performance outgrowing the abilities of their riders? Do riders need to look in the mirror and ask that person, "Do I have the skills and the reactions necessary to safely ride this bike in any road conditions?"

They also have all the electronic rider aids you could possibly never want.

The only way you could ever crash one would be to close your eyes and ride into a bank.

Or just wait for some tourist to mow you down.