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Still your option, flagpole at the gate, fly what you like...Originally Posted by ellipsis
As you'd know, when racing, yachts should fly a racing flag. We always flew the skull and crossbones. Very appropriate given the old man's style on the helm... A well known ChCh lawyer flew a flag showing a briefcase wrapped in red tape....The possibilites are endless.
Rasta Ratskins
I think the referendums are the wrong way around too and would like to have seen our made in nz kiwi incl on a flag somehow. Nothing says kiwis like a kiwi.
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Bored Room
I think the referendums are the wrong way around too and would like to have seen our made in nz kiwi incl on a flag somehow. Nothing says kiwis like a kiwi.
They put it on Made In NZ products as they too are rare and not often seen by the public, and will soon be extinct without intervention.
When are we having the one for the new Anthem, my suggestion would be Blam Blam Blams " No Depression in New Zealand"
DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.
mini meeeeeee
Blam Blam Blam - good times, good memories! Hahaha, that is still a great song nearly 35 years later.They put it on Made In NZ products as they too are rare and not often seen by the public, and will soon be extinct without intervention.
When are we having the one for the new Anthem, my suggestion would be Blam Blam Blams " No Depression in New Zealand"
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Add Th' Dudes "Bliss" and something from Howard Morrison and by crikey, we almost have a referendum. It'll be expensive to run though considering the reluctance to allow electronic voting - they'll have to post every registered voter a CD, cassette and vinyl recording of all the options. Unless of course we first hold a referendum on the preferred medium that the referendum anthem options are supplied to voters on. Fuck, I'm onto it.
Forum whore
Won't someone please think of the Treaty.
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
I'm also keen on a flag change - fuckin' hate our current flag!
The current flag has nothing to do with the country I was born and raised in!
British colony in the southern hemisphere is all the current flag shows - well, I'm not British, I'm a New Zealander!
The winning design is the one I chose for #2, I can live with that.
How the hell are they the wrong way around?
I couldn't answer the 2nd referendum without knowing the results of the first one!
Do you want to change the flag? I dunno, depends on what to mate!
They have done it the correct way around IMO, the other way just wouldn't make sense.
If the current flag is so great (majority at this point seem to think so) then why don't we use it?
Why do our Olympic athletes have a silver fern on their chests?
Why do our commonwealth games athletes use the silver fern?
Why did our rugby team go as far as trademarking a silver fern logo?
Why do our fallen soldiers buried in Europe have their graves marked with a silver fern?
Why do NZers on their OEs use the fern & the kiwi and not the flag? (probably because they get sick of "what part of aussie are you from mate?")
Our netball team is the silver ferns, our women's rugby team are the black ferns.
Why are so many keen on keeping the flag that so few actually use?
If we change our flag then we will have a flag chosen by the people of this country, how many other countries could say the same?
I hope the new flag gains some support and gets the vote, I know I'll be voting to change!
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one placenta
...too many fucking questions man...
Born to be mild
I've heard that 'logo' comment quite a few times but it's important to remember that it started becoming a logo AFTER it's recognition as something NZish (on servicemen's gravestones for instance). It became a 'logo' for NZ because it had already been recognised as a NZ thing.
Grow older but never grow up
Well, this is awkward...
Cool, but that's like saying Maori culture has nothing to do with it either - it's all part of our history, whether you like it or not. Wonder how they feel about this design, can't say I've heard much, but then they've got a much better flag of their own already (tino rangatiratanga flag), so why would they care.
Good for you, the one with red in the corner instead of black is a slight improvement over this one.
True that; but there should have been more choice in the first place. Throw all the designs open to a public vote, not just to 12 people on a committee, and give everyone plenty of time to think about it.
All true, and all perfectly good points. All very different shapes and sizes, also. I'm not anti-fern, I'm just anti THIS fern, which looks like a cheap knock-off of the Rugby Union/NZ Cricket type logo, and doesn't suit the proportions of a rectangular flag. I'd almost be prepared to pay the RFU/NZ Cricket royalties to replace this with either of theirs, maybe on a simple square flag, like the Swiss one.
Actually it's been chosen by 12 people (see above). Hobson's choice for the rest of us.
Of course this is all purely my opinion, and I only get one vote.
Moe: Well, I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I...I can't compete with that stuff.- The Simpsons
Forum whore
hear hear! The united tribes flag was a bit aesthetically poos, but I really like the look of the replacement Maori flag. I mean just look at these two together. To my eye the Maori flag is hands down, and I'm sorry to get technical on my descriptive terms, but it is hands down less 'spasticated to the eye'.
Born to be mild
Nice enough but what does it represent? Just looks to me like a warning flag for the beach "There's a tsunami on the way". On the other hand, the silver fern - the Southern Cross ... that speaks to me.
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Forum whore
Looking at it that way when we put them together we have a tsunami warning with a fish skeleton and some starfish chilling out in a rock pool
Born to be mild
Ha ha. A win on points to you for that one good sir!Looking at it that way when we put them together and we have a tsunami warning with a fish skeleton and some starfish chilling out in a rock pool
Grow older but never grow up
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
I mostly agree, although I would have been happy to ditch the southern cross. To me the southern cross says 'southern hemisphere' which is a bit too general and also there are a number of other countries flags that also have the southern cross on them.
But clearly the voters want a southern cross, the fern without it only came in 4th and like nerrrd I only get to have one vote.
Well, what's wrong with a fish skeleton & some starfish? After all we are an island nation surrounded by sea, kinda makes them appropriate to us in a way!Looking at it that way when we put them together we have a tsunami warning with a fish skeleton and some starfish chilling out in a rock pool
At least the design we get to vote on in March is not very similar to any other nations flag, it would stand out well as a flag for our nation.
Obviously the Maori flag is already taken so I don't see the country has any right to appropriate that one to use as the nations flag.
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