Anorak
This is what you posted.Originally Posted by Ocean1
As for the who should get credit for improvements.
Likely the people that put in place the actual improvements in healthcare. But don't worry only in Right wing spin do they occur immediately. Otherwise its the predecessors fault. right? and they were only tiding up the mess left by others ....ad nausea
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Bogeyman
Yes. I assumed you wanted references for http://ourworldindata.org/ which are posted at the bottom of every page. As is normal with any credible commentary.
It didn't occur to me that you'd actually be asking for references for http://report.hdr.undp.org/ But here, fill yer boots:
http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/fi...ical_annex.pdf
Point to the spin.
And what on earth leads you to believe I'd blame improvements in the production of anything whatsoever on anyone other than those producing them? The only contribution political entities can usually make to improvements is to stay out of the fucking way while others get on with the job.
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Anorak
Spin Shane Warne was an amateur third time what you posted.
"The report said New Zealand's life expectancy at birth increased by 8.7 years since 1980, years spent at school increased by almost 12 months and the gross national income per capita increased by 59 per cent between 1980 and 2014.
Life expectancy is 81.8 years, Kiwis expect to spend about 19 years in education and the gross income per person is $48,400 (US$32,689).
"New Zealand's human development index is above the average for countries in the very high human development group and above the average for countries in the OECD."
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Bogeyman
What exactly is incorrect about the numbers?
Hint: just feeling that they don't quite sound like they match your preconceptions doesn't constitute incorrect.
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Anorak
Nothing is incorrect about the numbers. Numbers are numbers, its (as I have said for 2 pages now) they need to be taken into the correct context to have meaning.
I provided the context that showed the number point to a slipping position in developed world standings compared to years ago
This conversation is spinning right round
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HellSpawn
the art of diplomacy is saying nice doggie,
until you find a big rock
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It's classic glass half fucked twatwaffle. Since you are a 'half empty' you'll be better off in the stupid worlders thread, since ocean and myself etc are 'half full', we should carry on being cheerful right here.
Me, I'm real cheerful I figured that benefits of positive perception years ago
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Anorak
No presently I think Ocean is half Cut..............It's classic glass half fucked twatwaffle. Since you are a 'half empty' you'll be better off in the stupid worlders thread, since ocean and myself etc are 'half full', we should carry on being cheerful right here.
Me, I'm real cheerful I figured that benefits of positive perception years ago
As I replied to your post a bit back, that what you had posted was what this thread was about was a reason to be cheerful, friends good health, boat loads of depraved sex. not party political broadcasts from Sarcahi and Sarchi on behalf of the National party.
I not sure if I can post on the stupid world thread as Mashy is still not talking to me..........
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Bogeyman
And yet the numbers you admit there's nothing wrong with stand alone as proof of improvement.
"The report said New Zealand's life expectancy at birth increased by 8.7 years since 1980, years spent at school increased by almost 12 months and the gross national income per capita increased by 59 per cent between 1980 and 2014.
Life expectancy is 81.8 years, Kiwis expect to spend about 19 years in education and the gross income per person is $48,400 (US$32,689).
"New Zealand's human development index is above the average for countries in the very high human development group and above the average for countries in the OECD."
To point out, ad nausium that some countries have done better in some areas is a pretty transparent attempt to spin good news as bad. The only reason I can see anyone might do that is in an attempt to rationalise a claim that there's nothing to be cheerful about purely to deny the "right wing" any ability to claim responsibility for it.
I wonder if that could be the reason you're having trouble with repeating yourself...
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Bogeyman
261?
Obviously spun data.
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Hardcore Biker
seems he's plenty cheerful enough over here --> http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...-friends-(koi) ( sick kunt )It's classic glass half fucked twatwaffle. Since you are a 'half empty' you'll be better off in the stupid worlders thread, since ocean and myself etc are 'half full', we should carry on being cheerful right here.
Me, I'm real cheerful I figured that benefits of positive perception years ago
Bogeyman
Not even. Couple of glasses of savi.No presently I think Ocean is half Cut..............
As I replied to your post a bit back, that what you had posted was what this thread was about was a reason to be cheerful, friends good health, boat loads of depraved sex. not party political broadcasts from Sarcahi and Sarchi on behalf of the National party.
I not sure if I can post on the stupid world thread as Mashy is still not talking to me..........
And that "National Party" broadcast came to you from possibly the most socialist organisation on the planet: teh UN, via comrade Helen Clarke.
If there's any spin to be found among data from that lot it'll be nothing the Nat's will be pleased to see.
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Anorak
pretty sure the UN did not ring up Stuff and say do you want to run a story...........
you are confusing the sourse of the information with who ran the story.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7522...obal-un-report
what you posted as I have said a bloody lot of times I have no issue with the data just the manner in which it is being spun.
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Bogeyman
Which has nothing to do with the validity of the data.
No I'm not.
The fact that the numbers are quoted by stuff doesn't automatically change them from true to "spun".
Good to agree that neither of us have issues with the report showing real numerical reasons to be cheerful.
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Slapper?
"Reasons to be cheerful"...just spent 5 1/2 hours at Oamaru hospital and made it out aliveno doubt the same as plenty of small towns in NZ but fuck me the service is shit,arrived there with an obviously broken thumb no biggie but bloody sore,had the X-ray but no cunt it seemed could read em so they called someone in...possibly from New York as it took fucking hours for him to get there..at one stage they told me to piss off and come back later when hopefully someone had looked at the X-rays
so went to the pub had a pint then went back to be told what everyone knew anyway.Missed my true calling it seems as i knew the thing was broken at 4.30 this afternoon.Will add that a forest the size of Russia had to be felled for the filling in of paperwork it seemed,crazy world.
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