Using LAMS approved bikes for full license test?

[J.A.W.]

The Rego said it was still restricted.

The only way to tell would've been if they had checked a particular wire to the ECU or put it on a Dyno.

Ah, bullshit.. all that was required to check - would've been ordering you to do a rolling burnout - as a mandatory part of the test..L.O.L...

[Akzle]

I guess they would say that in bare feet you aren't in full control of the vehicle and I would tend to agree. Jandals are not suitable either.

i fail to see how.

Jandals though. But i usually just take the jandals off and jam them under the pedals then barefoot it.

[rastuscat]

Maybe it's been mentioned. Can't be arsed reading the whole thread.

When you pass a CBTA assessment you dont get issued with a higher class licence. You get a certificate saying you've passed the assessment. You still have to take that and your existing licence to a driver licensing agent i.e. VTNZ, AA etc.


So passing the assessment means you're still on the license you rocked up on.

Just sayin

[FlangMasterJ]

I think you need to stop thinking ..........

Basically until they have completed and passed the test they are not legally permitted to ride a non LAMs approved bike. Very simple.

Are you understanding this OP? It can't get any clearer.

[RGVforme]

And after the restricted test they don't need a supervisor. Are you really that thick? Take someone with you = Simple.

PS: I don't give a Rats Arse if you are a moderator on this site, I'm not talking about Learners here. I'm talking about full licence.

The starter of this s**t fight left shortly after this little snarl.Prob got told to go to bed by his mum.Lol starts a thread about Learners then claims hes not talking about learners Wtf.Im calling Troll on this one.

[Ender EnZed]

Just sayin

Well off topic from the start of this nonsesne thread, but, in light of some the posts in #22 - #32 re:driving without shoes; have you ever dealt with barefoot drivers in your time? Is there anything you could have hypothetically charged someone with? Any situation in which you actually felt the need to act on an individual's barefootedness?

[MarkH]

as a current 6r holder I would rather see a system in place that allowed me to "speed up" the year wait by actually taking lessons from an instructor. im not entirely sure what the value of the year is? you rock up to a tennis court or the likes, spin around on a 125/250 for 12min then answer 30 questions that are laughable at best and your off, go get yourself a 660cc bike and take to the road, week later do your restricted and then.....nothing, just ride around for a year or more likely until the end of summer and then a few good days every now and then until the next test.
would it not be of more value to follow an almost car route where you take lessons and then when you and the instructor are happy you sit your full? at least this way rather than riding like a saint for 30min one time you can actually receive some tuition and learn a bit of roadcraft along the way.
I have taken 2x1hr rides since passing my restricted to gain some feedback on my road position, speed through corners, hazard observation and a general measure of my ability. I don't see how 12months or 3 makes any difference. the bronze ACC course (if anyone ever comes to taranaki to do 1) could the successful completion of this not be a measure of ability and count towards a reduction in the 12month period. it all seems rather arbitrary.

just my noob outlook as it were.

I'd have to agree with this - the 1 year thing seems extremely arbitrary.
One rider might only ride 10 hours in a year, another rider might ride 10 hours in a slow week, both would have to wait a year to sit their full license.
There should be a way to cut it back a lot, maybe 3 months - maybe some very thorough evaluation of rider ability to certify that the rider is ready to sit their 6f license?

[scumdog]

"suitable enclosed footwear" i believe is the directive. No high heels, ie.

Fucken stupid rule really. So i ignore it, with all the rest of them.

Ah, so you DO wear your high-heels when driving??

[nzspokes]

https://www.facebook.com/GearUpMag/v...7522261280101/

[caseye]

Pity the OP hasn't stuck around to see what everyone else has said.
Pity they have no common sense and can't see the need for a graduated stepping up of licences until you are legally allowed to ride an unrestricted, any size motorcycle.

[varminter]

Maybe it's been mentioned. Can't be arsed reading the whole thread.

When you pass a CBTA assessment you dont get issued with a higher class licence. You get a certificate saying you've passed the assessment. You still have to take that and your existing licence to a driver licensing agent i.e. VTNZ, AA etc.


So passing the assessment means you're still on the license you rocked up on.

Just sayin

If you're going to be sensible we'll have to ban you.

[rastuscat]

If you're going to be sensible we'll have to ban you.

It's an odd habit of mine

[GrayWolf]

Thank you, Maybe motorcyclists can transition into bigger bikes through the restricted period if they changed the law is what I'm saying.

as a current 6r holder I would rather see a system in place that allowed me to "speed up" the year wait by actually taking lessons from an instructor. im not entirely sure what the value of the year is? you rock up to a tennis court or the likes, spin around on a 125/250 for 12min then answer 30 questions that are laughable at best and your off, go get yourself a 660cc bike and take to the road, week later do your restricted and then.....nothing, just ride around for a year or more likely until the end of summer and then a few good days every now and then until the next test.
would it not be of more value to follow an almost car route where you take lessons and then when you and the instructor are happy you sit your full? at least this way rather than riding like a saint for 30min one time you can actually receive some tuition and learn a bit of roadcraft along the way.
I have taken 2x1hr rides since passing my restricted to gain some feedback on my road position, speed through corners, hazard observation and a general measure of my ability. I don't see how 12months or 3 makes any difference. the bronze ACC course (if anyone ever comes to taranaki to do 1) could the successful completion of this not be a measure of ability and count towards a reduction in the 12month period. it all seems rather arbitrary.

just my noob outlook as it were.

WTF, seriously you two, the law has just allowed learners to ride a 660cc. The cry before was 'fartbox 250's' now already it's 'fartbox 650's'.
The year etc is about EXPERIENCE! ACC rider, etc cannot give you the experience of riding in high gusty cross winds, heavy rain, cold conditions where you need to consider ice etc.
There are many of us still left who as noob's survived {somehow} the days of buy it, Looney plate it, ride it out the dealer door, and fuck off down the road.
Instead of bleating it isnt fair, accept if anything, it is done to protect you, and make sure {hopefully} you are ready to progress.... Or even better lets bring in the European 'stepped' licence, so you need to 'test' to shift up above each CC bracket???
The biggest difference between a car and bike..... a mistake in a car usually only results in some bent metal

[Moi]

... Or even better lets bring in the European 'stepped' licence, so you need to 'test' to shift up above each CC bracket...

It seems to work quite well in Europe... perhaps we should try it here as well... [we seem to be very keen on European things - cars, bikes, kitchen appliances, etc]

[JayDNZ]

I got my learners 6 months ago, straight onto a KLR650 and very happy, love LAMS!! System makes perfect sense to my mind, other than the 10pm curfew thing, that's weird.

Can't see any issue with driving a car barefoot... BUT, turning up for your test barefoot, WTF LOL!!