Where do you want to see bucket racing go in the next 10 years?

[mr bucketracer]

Probably, but I'm known as a nice guy, because largely I am, but talk about bleating.we don't need this.

in a nut shell ,a heap of guys have been told not to race in buckets again because ?someone knows the true

[kel]

Are you from Auckland? Sure sounds like it.

Steady on. We're not so bad

[FastFred]

Yes we are ......

[jasonu]

after some ringing about there is way more than meets the eye happing here (bullying) is the right word , engines are the key to get ride of them ,not frames it seems .. ok that counts out prombly 6 -7 out the north island .. great guys . thought we just get on and fun out there ( more the merra ) most in b grade and only race for chocolate fish ! if your getting ya ass kicked in A ...well (go faster) , raced with them , never had a promblem ,,not like there doing a 180k on a big track, i'v meet the guys concered , real nice guys

Except if the forzas are allowed to participate in any form what about a couple of scooters or the odd RM85 or my mates xr200...

[jasonu]

nasty.....

But appropriate... Some people don't get it unless you really spell it out to them real slow with small words...

[jasonu]

Steady on. Where not so bad

Yes we are ......

Kel definitely is...

[TZ350]

still called a troll. Brilliant! Cheers B

At the last Mt Welly meeting when you and your mate were pushing the pitbike case you were advised to take it to MNZ.

I understand the MNZ Road Race Commissioner has got involved and ruled that pitbikes are ineligible for F4.

Now nobody anywhere can run their pitbikes in an MNZ sanctioned F4 race.

That is it, its finished. I expect you will need to bring something else to Mt Wellington now.

If its true Belinda, then pitbikes are finished in Buckets, I guess trying to browbeat the race organizers and possibly running to MNZ did not workout that well, should have fronted with six or more pitbikes and had your own race.

[mr bucketracer]

Except if the forzas are allowed to participate in any form what about a couple of scooters or the odd RM85 or my mates xr200...

hay , they support the north island series witch is a dam lot better than most do ! and how often do they 6 sidecar at mt welly to have there own class , not offten going off mylaps

[husaberg]

Hi Mr Bucketracer


"and what would pee you of if rules changed"
Well I'm sorry to inform you, the rules have changed!! Mid season!! With no consultation or discussions with competitors within the bucket community.
To me. How this came about is pure bullying at its worst! Which at the moment it looks as though it is supported by MNZ

You may ask what am I referring to. Well it's this message left on my friends answer phone
by Brian Steffensen My friend dose not know who he is and Brian Steffensen did not leave a contact number to discuses the issue.


("Just letting you know that to reduce any further confusion we have added a new supplementary
regulation to all of our events going forward and that is.
Pit bikes such as but not limited to Forza Thumpster and Pitsta Pro are not eligible.
And the final discussion as to what does and doesn't constitute a pit bike is at the discretion of the steward of the meeting and the machine examiner.")

What alarms me the most, as it should you, is the finale sentence.

So basically, it doesn't matter if your bike complies with the rules. If they don't like you because you are Male,Female,Black or White, Guy or Straight. They can exclude you by simply referring to your bike as a pit bike and you do not have any recourse what so ever.

Cheers
Belinda

I will post this on the thread.
Rule change submissions close 1 March 2016 - be in to win.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...-to-win/page27

Hi Belinda, actually the rules have not changed midseason, pit bikes have always been excluded by the non competition rule, they by definition are not eligible now or have ever been eligible for F4 or F5, but some people like them and a few would like to race them.

I see you are from Auckland, Bucket racing at Mt Wellington has always tried to accommodate pit bikes one way or another in a common sense sort of way. They have bent over backwards controversially letting them race in F4 and as numbers grew offering to run their own class if they could field six or more.

From what I have seen most pitbike riders graduated to Bucket legal bikes but a die hard pitster having been allowed to ride is now behaving as if it is their right, well it is not. It looks like a case of give an inch and they demand a mile.

The situation has been discussed at some length by the committee and generally by the riders in the pits.

I understand the pitsters side had been put forcefully to Mel an organiser (Also Brian's partner) at several meetings. I guess the pitsters have pushed the point far enough that a definitive decision and a clear statement had to be made.

If this is upsetting you and your family you may need to look at what part they have played.

But as it is, pitsters are not an eligible bike so are not going to be allowed to run in F4 or F5 but I understand if you can field six or more the organisers are open to running a class specifically for you and the other riders are happy to give up some of their track time, now how much fairer than that do you want it to be????

If its true Belinda, then pitbikes are finished in Buckets, I guess trying to browbeat the race organizers and possibly running to MNZ did not workout that well, should have fronted with six or more pitbikes and had your own race.

Right as its the MNZ that made the call I guess it was as a result of the rule they in force on all the street circuits.
I went and had a look in the entry forms for a few street races.

PORT NELSON STREET RACES : SATURDAY 2nd January 2016 MNZ Permit # 15788
Supplementary Regulations: Motards are only eligible to enter the Motard Class. No cross entering will be allowed. This is in the interest of safety.

Paeroa Battle of the Streets Motorcycle Street Race Sunday FEBRUARY 21st 2016 Permit No 15873
Supermoto machine shall elect to ride in one of the following classes, BEARS (if eligible) or Supermoto. Final eligibility decision rests with the organiser whose decision shall be final. They are banned from Superlite

METHVEN MOUNTAIN THUNDER STREET RACE 2016 SUPPLEMENTARY RULES.
SUPERMOTARDS: as per MNZ rules. Motards are only eligible for the Motard class

GREYMOUTH MOTOR CYCLE STREET RACE SUNDAY 27TH OCTOBER 2013 (LABOUR WEEKEND) PERMIT 14575
Due to the tight nature of our circuit Supermotard machines can not cross enter into any other class.