NZTA approved route for Porirua? (CBTA full licence assessment)

[nzspokes]

If you did a decent Ride Forever course... I feel (and maybe this is wrong) that some of the providers have worked out how to make some money off the courses, and are just pushing riders to take more and more courses. The courses aren't necessarily helping the riders as much as they can. Yeah they are only $20/$50 but for the amount of time put in I didn't get enough out.

That is why when I finally have some time I am going to a separate training provider for some 1 on 1 stuff before going for my restricted.

Yerp, guess what? The cheapest is not always the best. Some great trainers in Auck. My call is Phillip from Riderskills is the best.

[RGVforme]

thanks for the support.
I did not go above 100, I got caught out where the speed limit changed from 50 to 100, i sped up about 20m before the 100 sign and did not slow down fast enough when it went from 100 to 50.

Sounds like the type of bad habits you would get from commuting with the flow if traffic twice a day...Hmmmm.

[rambaldi]

Yerp, guess what? The cheapest is not always the best. Some great trainers in Auck. My call is Phillip from Riderskills is the best.

Agreed. I thought as ACC was covering the instructors time they would ensure a certain standard...

[Mike.Gayner]

Agreed. I thought as ACC was covering the instructors time they would ensure a certain standard...

You're assuming government is good at accountability.

[RGVforme]

Agreed. I thought as ACC was covering the instructors time they would ensure a certain standard...

I suspect they do....Just not your standard.

You did one course.This does not mean all courses are run this way.

Your trying to paint a large wall with a huge brush and f**k all paint.

Truth is these courses didn't even exist a few years ago so $20 or $200 any rider training is good training.

[nzspokes]

Truth is these courses didn't even exist a few years ago so $20 or $200 any rider training is good training.

Yes they did. In 2011 and 2012 I did ACC sponsored courses. Both were $50 from memory and one of them was 3 hours one on one. That course changed how I ride.

Both were excellent. Neither do it now for the ACC.

[RGVforme]

Yes they did. In 2011 and 2012 I did ACC sponsored courses. Both were $50 from memory and one of them was 3 hours one on one. That course changed how I ride.

Both were excellent. Neither do it now for the ACC.

Oh nzspokes so literal with the term "few years".....

[rambaldi]

You're assuming government is good at accountability.

Maybe not accounting but the licensing people seem to be good at check boxes...

I suspect they do....Just not your standard.

You did one course.This does not mean all courses are run this way.

Your trying to paint a large wall with a huge brush and f**k all paint.

Truth is these courses didn't even exist a few years ago so $20 or $200 any rider training is good training.

Yes. I only did one course, and it was with only one instructor. There are people out there (rastuscat strikes me as one) who are involved in the training scheme who provide their students with good value for time and money. But there are also people out there who have worked out how to get on the gravy train, and are churning out instructors and courses where the students don't get all they should.

I am involved-ish in the dive industry and it is hugely obvious there, both internationally and in New Zealand (although the ATO stuff has changed that a bit), that certain places have worked out how to meet the minimums and not give their students all they can and should.

I didn't realise prior to the course that that was the situation for the provider I went through. It is probably different with other instructors they have, and very likely to be different with other companies. It felt like they were just selling me the Silver course, and with no guarantee that that instruction would be any better.

Hey, it is only $20. If you have the time, I still say go for it. Just know ahead of time what you might be getting. But if you are like me and have limited time, there are better avenues for assistance with your riding. Places where it is more obvious what the company and the market value the instructors time at.

[Stonecold]

Best solution to the speeding issue is to ride one or two gears down from normal. So do your test in 2nd max 3rd gear. The moment you hit 4th there is no way to stay under 50. Works in real life too!:-)

Still happy to ride with you anytime.


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[Stonecold]

I highly recommend 2 Bald Bikers in Wainuomata. Ross took me on my golf course; best 8 hours I ever got for $50. One on one, with a permanent Bluetooth connection between us, but I was lucky. Highly recommended.


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[Stonecold]

Golf = gold. GOLD, damn autocorrect


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[Akzle]

But if you are like me and have limited time,

wouldnt worry about this guy. He has time to spare for such gaieties as failing tests and praying to gawd.

[SPman]

We obviously have more relaxed instructors here out west.........

[RGVforme]

We obviously have more relaxed instructors here out west.........

"ATGATT?....Nah mate never heard of her German girl is she?"

[5ive]

Best solution to the speeding issue is to ride one or two gears down from normal. So do your test in 2nd max 3rd gear. The moment you hit 4th there is no way to stay under 50. Works in real life too!:-)

Still happy to ride with you anytime.


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What? Don't do this.

Not all LAMS bikes a geared the same, and engine sizes are also different - for example my 300 goes up to 15000 rpm, and can do over 50 in 2nd...

Part of the CBTA assessment is also to check that you're using the appropriate gear for the speed you are travelling, among other things.

So yeah, it's a good way to fail the test.