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    Hmmm.... Its been an enlightening debate, though it seems to have gone a bit off-track. Just to confirm, the original gentleman that purchased my bike from new chose to have ABS fitted as an option, meaning he got some extra electrics, brake pipe and a huge pump device. When I purchased the bike these extra parts were not functioning so I have removed them returning the bike back to the standard model with lines running direct to the callipers from the master cylinders. This is not complicated or tricky stuff, no welding or fabrication, just attaching brake lines. The bike is now a standard version which could have been purchased at the time and can easily be assessed by a competent WOF inspector. So why do I have to proceed with all of the additional bullshit when lets face it, it will be passed as acceptable. I understand the argument about cowboys creating death traps, this isn't even close to that category!

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    Blackbird, thanks for all your help, its greatly appreciated, you're a gent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arborist View Post
    Yes, according to me, ex engineer, ex mechanic, ex road racer............
    But not a certified inspector eh
    The next guy that rolls in could be the worlds worst sandwich artist at the local Subway, the same rules cover you both.

    I'm passing through Queenstown in 1.5/2 weeks. If it fits on the trailer I can take it to Dunedin for you if that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arborist View Post
    So why do I have to proceed with all of the additional bullshit when lets face it, it will be passed as acceptable. I understand the argument about cowboys creating death traps, this isn't even close to that category!
    Because......bureaucracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    how did they know you had modified it?
    I'm guessing the ABS marking in the side panels arouse suspicion followed by the light on the dash and the lack of additional brake pipes etc.......... Maybe time to cover the ABS with a sticker and remove the ABS light from the dash, save myself a fortune and a lot of hassle!

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    Did you see my PM's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
    Did you see my PM's?
    Presumably, 'cause he thanked you and said yer a gent. But we knew that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Presumably, 'cause he thanked you and said yer a gent. But we knew that.
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    Yep, cheers Blackbird, I don't seem to have the privilege of making PM's as I'm new.

    As an aside to those knowledgeable folks who seem to think that years of experience and knowledge doesn't count for anything, you will also undoubtedly know that anyone seriously involved in road racing is very focused on safety, I'm no exception, pedantic and obsessed with detail. Therefore, I admit I struggle with having to take a lot of trouble to get someone of possibly lesser expertise to rubber stamp my work......... though this is the kiwi way and how many people make a living in NZ....... I await the vociferous replies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arborist View Post
    though this is the kiwi way and how many people make a living in NZ
    Only recently. And at that we're 25 years behind the rest of the "civilized" world. Catching up fast, though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arborist View Post
    ... As an aside to those knowledgeable folks who seem to think that years of experience and knowledge doesn't count for anything, you will also undoubtedly know that anyone seriously involved in road racing is very focused on safety, I'm no exception, pedantic and obsessed with detail. Therefore, I admit I struggle with having to take a lot of trouble to get someone of possibly lesser expertise to rubber stamp my work... though this is the kiwi way and how many people make a living in NZ... I await the vociferous replies
    I and probably the WoF testing station inspector don't know you from a bar of soap. Neither of us know your skills, abilities, expertise or experience. However, the one thing the WoF inspector does know is that if he passes your bike and in doing so falsifies his paperwork then he is putting his head on the block. I'd suggest you consider this from his point-of-view, would you falsify a legal document and by doing so jeopardise your work position, your income and your standing among your peers? He has to follow the rules and these rules require you to do specific things in order to have your bike pass a WoF - it's a simple case of jumping through the hoops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    WoF is there to check vehicle safety extort money for nothing
    Youre a fuckin idiot with a chip on your shoulder, you should stick to that.
    Apparently according to your stoner logic we should all be able to drive vehicles in whatever the fuck state we choose, while sharing the road with others.
    What a fuckin dickhead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arborist View Post
    Ok, so any aftermarket upgrade item, exhaust, brakes, bodywork, suspension that alters the bike from its original condition requires the bike to be certified by a LLV technician?
    Depends who you take it to,ive a 98TLS with later model GSXR front end/radial calipers,aftermarket rims etc thats never been queried.If me i would remove the stickers and try elsewhere.That said i know nothing of ABS or the removal of it etc etc so maybe its best dealt with by an expert...dunno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Youre a fuckin idiot with a chip on your shoulder, you should stick to that.
    Apparently according to your stoner logic we should all be able to drive vehicles in whatever the fuck state we choose, while sharing the road with others.
    What a fuckin dickhead.
    Seems you need to stop packing ya vagina with sand... No we have a vehicle standard to keep to & WoF doesn't change this, it is no more than 'security theater' & serves no real purpose as proven by many studies & other countries
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    it is no more than 'security theater' & serves no real purpose as proven by many studies & other countries
    Having seen what has been picked up by mechanics on WOF inspections I think we'd be fucking stupid to abandon them
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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