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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    If you're talking about how the above would happen under RBE, then I fail to see why a construction would be so critical that it didn't have the resources, let alone knowledge sharing, in order to finish the job under various circumstances. Overruns are financial problems and as such under RBE there'd be no penalties on account of there being no money. Fuckups could be dealt with in exactly the same way as we currently do... although bit of a shame to fuck someone over because they made a single mistake. Plus how do you punish a machine for a fuckup?
    wouldn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Like a dog with a bone. Whether there is a hierarchy or not is irrelevant so long as everyone knows what they're doing.
    So what happens when there are two dogs and one bone?

    Dogs even get organised and hunt in packs, and their is always a leader.

    Other than posting links to other dead dreamers any examples of your so called RBE......

    BWahhhaaaaaawafflehaaaaaaaanddrivel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    wouldn't work.
    Ok.

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    So what happens when there are two dogs and one bone?

    Dogs even get organised and hunt in packs, and their is always a leader.

    Other than posting links to other dead dreamers any examples of your so called RBE......

    BWahhhaaaaaawafflehaaaaaaaanddrivel.
    Tis up to the dogs innit. Fight over it. Share it. Or go find another bone.

    We aren't dogs.

    Fresco ain't dead.

    You take out what ya bring in
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    So no ones uses RBE then, thought as much.
    I think my Grandfather did, ran a water wheel mill that was a couple of hundred years old....thankfully the industrial revolution came along.

    According to that other plonker the UK could have sponged off Stephen,Brunell, Faraday, and that bloke who build the spinning Jenny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    So no ones uses RBE then, thought as much.
    I think my Grandfather did, ran a water wheel mill that was a couple of hundred years old....thankfully the industrial revolution came along.

    According to that other plonker the UK could have sponged off Stephen,Brunell, Faraday, and that bloke who build the spinning Jenny.
    There's quite a few out there. Thinking ain't your strong point is it... and I'm all out of spoonfed understanding.

    Yeah, much better to privatise the lot and string human beings along with the idea that silo'ing information is best. Why stand on the shoulders of giants when you can buy their ideas, so long as you have lots of money, and then can claim to be the giant .
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    There's quite a few out there. Thinking ain't your strong point is it... and I'm all out of spoonfed understanding.

    Yeah, much better to privatise the lot and string human beings along with the idea that silo'ing information is best. Why stand on the shoulders of giants when you can buy their ideas, so long as you have lots of money, and then can claim to be the giant .
    Yeah, no I'm a bit dim, otherwise I would not be here would I.

    So Jack and Beanstalk are RBE? I get it.

    Baaaaabaaablacksheeple.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Yeah, no I'm a bit dim, otherwise I would not be here would I.

    So Jack and Beanstalk are RBE? I get it.

    Baaaaabaaablacksheeple.....
    Dim and dimmer eh. I'll be dimmer

    No, Jack WITH the Beanstalk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    I'm surprised you don't recognise the practice given the RBE view of it and your claimed knowledge of RBE. Fortunately I'm here to point these things out for you so that you can become more knowledgeable on subjects you clearly know nothing about despite your claims. Some might say that taking such a position is delusional. I'd say you're welcome, but you clearly don't have the capacity for changing your position. There are some helpful tips in the confirmation bias document I posted on the previous page though. Good luck.

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    I don't recognise the practice because there are no functional RBEs yet. It's also an unrecognisable practice from a theoretical point of view because of it's oversimpification. Yes there will be a large degree of self-determiniation in an RBE, but there will absolutely still be managers. And they will most certainly still be directing others what to do.

    Ie, if you think that quote means there will be no managers, you've really not got a clue about RBEs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    I don't recognise the practice because there are no functional RBEs yet. It's also an unrecognisable practice from a theoretical point of view because of it's oversimpification. Yes there will be a large degree of self-determiniation in an RBE, but there will absolutely still be managers. And they will most certainly still be directing others what to do.

    Ie, if you think that quote means there will be no managers, you've really not got a clue about RBEs.
    I was merely pointing out that the theory exists as an RBE concept. I know this having discussed leadership etc... with other RBE members/advocates... but hey, you know best... you fascists usually do. But we'd be talking pure RBE at that point, and as highlighted and understood by those RBE members/advocates, it's a concept that some will simply never grasp. That Valve are using such an approach shows that it isn't just a money related concept either, something I never stated anyway, and in fact isn't just a concept anymore. So, I was surprised that you denied the existence of the theory given your claimed RBE knowledge. Also, and according to Mr Fresco the definer of RBE as you claim to understand it, you're a fascist.
    That not a revelation mind.

    i.e. Stop pretending to know what I think, coz you're invariably wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    I was merely pointing out that the theory exists as an RBE concept. I know this having discussed leadership etc... with other RBE members/advocates... but hey, you know best... you fascists usually do. But we'd be talking pure RBE at that point, and as highlighted and understood by those RBE members/advocates, it's a concept that some will simply never grasp. That Valve are using such an approach shows that it isn't just a money related concept either, something I never stated anyway, and in fact isn't just a concept anymore. So, I was surprised that you denied the existence of the theory given your claimed RBE knowledge. Also, and according to Mr Fresco the definer of RBE as you claim to understand it, you're a fascist.
    That not a revelation mind.

    i.e. Stop pretending to know what I think, coz you're invariably wrong.
    But not in detail, there will always be managers.

    I disagree, Fresco has never defined me as a fascist, you simply wish to see me as one so you can have an excuse to ignore my logic; instead of opening your eyes to take on board information that goes against your prejudices. The source of information and ideas doesn't matter, it is the content that counts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    But not in detail, there will always be managers.

    I disagree, Fresco has never defined me as a fascist, you simply wish to see me as one so you can have an excuse to ignore my logic; instead of opening your eyes to take on board information that goes against your prejudices.
    Where required they make sense... and I don't mean that from a responsibility/accountability point of view.

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    The source of information and ideas doesn't matter, it is the content that counts.
    Quote Originally Posted by bogan to scuba_steve yesterday when speaking about valve being managerless
    That's a nice piece of puff marketing from an undisclosed source
    Typical fascist denial. You quack like one. So whilst you can disagree with Mr Fresco all you like, the evidence states otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Where required they make sense... and I don't mean that from a responsibility/accountability point of view.





    Typical fascist denial. You quack like one. So whilst you can disagree with Mr Fresco all you like, the evidence states otherwise.
    I know, it's almost like that is what I'd been trying to explain to Scoober...

    The source was undisclosed, and it was clearly the content I took issue with. Nor have you made mention of Fresco saying I'm a fascist. So what's your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    I know, it's almost like that is what I'd been trying to explain to Scoober...

    The source was undisclosed, and it was clearly the content I took issue with.
    Oh Scoober already understood it. There was no need for you to explain it to him. But it was a nice deflection from your inability to handle what he was explaining to you. Nice try buttercup.

    You said the source didn't matter. And I removed the Fresco stuff as you're not ready for it. I say that as an ex-fascist, as defined by Mr Fresco... you really aren't.
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