Stupid World

[bogan]

When I said in the way, I meant it from the perspective of budget constraint and the lack of ability to move towards technological unemployment without the fear of crashing the economy due to budget constraint. In other words, we can't implement tech to put people out of a job because the economy can't handle too much unemployment. I am being the change, ya know, running for Mayor etc... @reflection. You are incapable of such given your view that the change can only happen in one way. Sad in a really really funny kind of way, but sad nonetheless.

When I said it's not in the way, I meant that none of those things apply. You confuse wide scale change with small scale.

The whole idea of an RBE is that we can have all we want/need simply by sharing production. You could share production with the other 100 stupid worlders (or whatever your latest claim is that you've convinced).
So how many ways do you think it can happen, and why don't you think it can happen in the way I outline?

[mashman]

When I said it's not in the way, I meant that none of those things apply. You confuse wide scale change with small scale.

The whole idea of an RBE is that we can have all we want/need simply by sharing production. You could share production with the other 100 stupid worlders (or whatever your latest claim is that you've convinced).
So how many ways do you think it can happen, and why don't you think it can happen in the way I outline?

@scale. Think globally, act locally. I'm confusing nothing with anything.

@share production. Let's see now, there's the suck it and sees (that's you and some members of the money free party), then there's the UBI crowd (again, some of the money free party irrespective of it being FTT/LVT etc...), then there's "my" way i.e. use every system that exists against itself. That's 3 ways. All of them completely plausible. 2 of them will need to pass through "my" way on the way to RBE on a country by country basis. I'm shortening the curve to RBE.

[bogan]

@scale. Think globally, act locally. I'm confusing nothing with anything.

@share production. Let's see now, there's the suck it and sees (that's you and some members of the money free party), then there's the UBI crowd (again, some of the money free party irrespective of it being FTT/LVT etc...), then there's "my" way i.e. use every system that exists against itself. That's 3 ways. All of them completely plausible. 2 of them will need to pass through "my" way on the way to RBE on a country by country basis. I'm shortening the curve to RBE.

Those are three names; perhaps you should make an effort to explain them, and their differences.

[Scuba_Steve]

Love capitalism? Move to China; they have all the capitalism you can buy

[mashman]

Those are three names; perhaps you should make an effort to explain them, and their differences.

I thought I'd apply the bogan application of theory and not.

[bogan]

I thought I'd apply the bogan application of theory and not.

So when you say "I'm shortening the curve to RBE." what does this mean? because it seems like you don't even understand where to actually start; and are stuck on whinging about shit and just telling us your way is better.

[mashman]

So when you say "I'm shortening the curve to RBE." what does this mean? because it seems like you don't even understand where to actually start; and are stuck on whinging about shit and just telling us your way is better.

Seems? If you'd have left it at the question mark I might've groaned and expanded further... but I'll leave you to your ASSumptions as you seem more comfortable with those.

[bogan]

Seems? If you'd have left it at the question mark I might've groaned and expanded further... but I'll leave you to your ASSumptions as you seem more comfortable with those.

We both know if I'd left it there you'd have found some other excuse not to explain 'your' 'system', it's typical politician behavior.

[Brian d marge]

Love capitalism? Move to China; they have all the capitalism you can buy

It's a lot freer than the west
The government is openly corrupt
They shoot criminals and rich fkers
The propaganda is better than the west. ....
The food is great
the women ... Can think of any beached whales unlike Hamilton...
And their mafia will be the new world order

AND they ACTUALLY built a wall unlike Trump who just says the will

sent for a divine source

[mashman]

We both know if I'd left it there you'd have found some other excuse not to explain 'your' 'system', it's typical politician behavior.

And we also know that I've explained these things many times before and you haven't understood. Nothing politiciany about it other than your usual john key "I do not remember" behaviour. I'm merely shortening that curve

[bogan]

And we also know that I've explained these things many times before and you haven't understood. Nothing politiciany about it other than your usual john key "I do not remember" behaviour. I'm merely shortening that curve

You've claimed I haven't understood, I've claimed there are details in your system that need addressing (and pointed these out at length), instead of addressing these you simply claim I do not understand. What's politiciany about it, is that somebody who truly wished to make a change would go on at length about how that could be achieved with just the slightest provocation, but politicians give evasive answers even when pressed because they do not have a robust plan to actually achieve their aims. You line up perfectly with the later.

[mashman]

You've claimed I haven't understood, I've claimed there are details in your system that need addressing (and pointed these out at length), instead of addressing these you simply claim I do not understand. What's politiciany about it, is that somebody who truly wished to make a change would go on at length about how that could be achieved with just the slightest provocation, but politicians give evasive answers even when pressed because they do not have a robust plan to actually achieve their aims. You line up perfectly with the later.

I have gone on at length and have the posts to prove it... or don't you remember those either. You have claimed that there were details missing and I offered my take on those details. You ran back to your usual hidey hole with some form of derisory comment. T'ain't my problem. As I have said before, plenty of other people understand the approach... and given that you claim to understand RBE, you should be able to extrapolate that information you've been given very quickly. You either don't or can't... and I'm leaning towards the latter given that you can't accept that you don't understand what has been explained. Doesn't change the fact the the plan is understandable, but it does point to you having not understood it. Hey ho... mebees someone will explain it to you someday in a way that you'll understand. Til then, meh, go fish... you have more than enough info.

[bogan]

I have gone on at length and have the posts to prove it... or don't you remember those either. You have claimed that there were details missing and I offered my take on those details. You ran back to your usual hidey hole with some form of derisory comment. T'ain't my problem. As I have said before, plenty of other people understand the approach... and given that you claim to understand RBE, you should be able to extrapolate that information you've been given very quickly. You either don't or can't... and I'm leaning towards the latter given that you can't accept that you don't understand what has been explained. Doesn't change the fact the the plan is understandable, but it does point to you having not understood it. Hey ho... mebees someone will explain it to you someday in a way that you'll understand. Til then, meh, go fish... you have more than enough info.

I remember things differently, but since you have the posts to prove it, show em. Or, discuss the actual plan and show it that way. This waffle about why you can't discuss this method for a 'better world', yet continue to tell us you have one, is pure politician misdirection 101...

[jonbuoy]

Good on you Mashie for running for Mayor. I don´t totally agree with all your ideas but at least you are passionate enough to try and do something about it.

[mashman]

Good on you Mashie for running for Mayor. I don´t totally agree with all your ideas but at least you are passionate enough to try and do something about it.

Cheers muchly. Ooooo and I've got a conspiracy about that... that or my fingers ain't working properly. Anyhoo, this is what I've been directing people to Mayor Page.

Conspiracy time

What I have been explaining at the Mayoral engagements are some of those things I'd like to look at doing. I've had some quite friendly feedback from some of the Council candidates in regards to them. Anyhoo, at the engagements I've been asking people to look me up on facebook @ Gordon Mayoral Candidate Marshall... and until yesterday the page linked to above used to come up as the 4th result on google. Today, it doesn't show in the top 10 pages. Play twilight zone music lol. Now if I were a conspiracy nut, I'd think that it had been removed because too many people were looking at the page a little too much and liking what they saw. Not sure how that can be the case given that the things I'd like to look at make no sense .

Onwards!