Old Steve had an off

[swbarnett]

I'd go even further and suggest that repeatedly stating that it was the taxi drivers fault shows that very little has been learned.

I put it to you that a lot has been learned. Certainly Steve's post show a very good post accident attiude as far as I can tell.

Yes, the rider is ultimately responsible for their own safety. But that doesn't mean that another party to an accident can't be held legally cupable. In this case the taxi, in legal terms, initiated the chain of events that lead to the accident.

[Katman]

In this case the taxi, in legal terms, initiated the chain of events that lead to the accident.

You can talk in legal terms all you like.

But to miss such a glaringly obvious hazard as the gap in the traffic as described in the original post, indicates a level of culpability equal to the taxi driver thinking he could take advantage of the gap.

[trufflebutter]

I put it to you that a lot has been learned. Certainly Steve's post show a very good post accident attiude as far as I can tell.

Yes, the rider is ultimately responsible for their own safety. But that doesn't mean that another party to an accident can't be held legally cupable. In this case the taxi, in legal terms, initiated the chain of events that lead to the accident.

I would suggest that (and considering his previous posts in this thread) his repeated point of interest is purely a conceited attempt to bolster an ailing argument with himself.

[pritch]

I'd go even further and suggest that repeatedly stating that it was the taxi drivers fault shows that very little has been learned.

But of course you have zero justification to say that, because you didn't witness the accident so you really don't know precisely what happened.

For the record, I too thought the OP demonstrated a good attitude and his report has caused people to be aware of the possibility of such a thing happening to them. Well, those of us who don't consider we know everything there is to know already?

[swbarnett]

You can talk in legal terms all you like.

But to miss such a glaringly obvious hazard as the gap in the traffic as described in the original post, indicates a level of culpability equal to the taxi driver thinking he could take advantage of the gap.

I think you've missed the difference between legal culpability and personal responsibility. I take full responsibility for my own hide. If this happened to me I'd be kicking myself for not seeing the danger early enough to mitigate it. At the same time I would hold the other party fully culpable for any and all damages - as would the law as I understand it.

The fact of the matter is that the taxi driver broke the law - Steve didn't.

[swbarnett]

I would suggest that (and considering his previous posts in this thread) his repeated point of interest is purely a conceited attempt to bolster an ailing argument with himself.

What I got from his posts was that, yes, he blames the taxi driver for the accident (as do I based on what I know of the situation). BUT, he also accepts that there were things he could've done to mitigate the taxi driver's blatant diregard for his obligations under the law and prevent an actual accident occurring.

[Katman]

I think you've missed the difference between legal culpability and personal responsibility.

You're the one talking in legal terms.

Culpability extends beyond what's simply 'legal'.

[nzspokes]

You're the one talking in legal terms.

Culpability extends beyond what's simply 'legal'.

How many times have you lost your license?

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[Moi]

Good news Old Steve...

thanks for the update.

At least your drinking of festive cheer will not be curtailed by a sore shoulder...



As for no one seems to have learnt anything..., I suggest that people who ride in heavy traffic situations and/or use bus or T-lanes will be more aware of these sort of intersections and will do whatever they consider appropriate to keep themselves safe: taking personal responsibility - that is a learning/re-learning/revising situation. I'd also suggest that, if with any luck, the taxi driver might also be far more cautious when turning right across two lanes... the taxi driver was very lucky it was a bike and not a car coming down the T3 lane - being t-boned would have ruined his day a bit more... possibly a seriously injured passenger.

[Katman]

How many times have you lost your license?

I've never lost my license.

How about you?

[pritch]

I've never lost my license.

I seem to recall that a year or three back you were full house on demerits? Close but not out?

[Katman]

I seem to recall that a year or three back you were full house on demerits? Close but not out?

They had me sweating.

[old slider]

Pleased to hear your recovering well Old Steve, This thread has high lighted my need to be even more vigilant on our roads. (thank you).

There also appears to be a few riders who are far more experienced and apparently more aware than many others on here, I am hoping they will devote some time offering there experiences with some sound advise to hopefully improve us less competent riders.

[swbarnett]

You're the one talking in legal terms.

Culpability extends beyond what's simply 'legal'.

Which is why I prefixed it with the word "legal".

I do understand there is a difference. This is actually my point.

[Maha]

I seem to recall that a year or three back you were full house on demerits? Close but not out?

He probably stayed home to avoid Taxis.