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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/measles-mortality-vs-incidence.jpg
    You do realses that measles vaccination were licienced in 1964
    your chart shows this dramatc effect




    your chart refers to deaths /1000 cases.
    it is therefore skewed as they were bugger all cases.
    Also since 2001 the immunisation rate has gone down as a result of scaremongering cretins such as yourself telling people it is not safe to vaccinate children. But don’t let that get in the way of your paranoia.



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberk View Post
    You do realses that measles vacination were licienced in 1964
    your chart
    It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that you completely missed what the graph I posted shows.

    People like to say that the measles vaccine has saved countless lives but the graph clearly shows that measles mortality was rapidly decreasing long before the vaccine was introduced.

    The fact is that improvements in sanitation and nutrition is the real reason that the rate of deaths from measles has decreased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that you completely missed what the graph I posted shows.

    People like to say that the measles vaccine has saved countless lives but the graph clearly shows that measles mortality was rapidly decreasing long before the vaccine was introduced.

    The fact is that improvements in sanitation and nutrition is the real reason that the rate of deaths from measles has decreased.
    If this is a fact explain why it dropped so dramically in 1964 and never rose again. to the same levels in the USA
    If it was as you are stating it is a fact, was the major leap forward in sanitation and nutrition that occured in that year in the USA.

    If you intend quoting something as a fact show actual evidence to back it up



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberk View Post
    If this is a fact explain why it dropped so dramically in 1964 and never rose again.
    The rate of deaths from measles didn't drop dramatically in 1964.

    That's precisely what the graph I posted shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    The rate of deaths from measles didn't drop dramatically in 1964.

    That's precisely what the graph I posted shows.
    The rate of death is listed as per 1000 cases i already explained that to you. the dramatically smaller the number of case skews the results.
    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    You do realses that measles vaccination were licienced in 1964
    your chart shows this dramatc effect
    https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...-incidence.jpg
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...2007_inset.png

    your chart refers to deaths /1000 cases.
    it is therefore skewed as they were bugger all cases.

    Also since 2001 the immunisation rate has gone down as a result of scaremongering cretins such as yourself telling people it is not safe to vaccinate children. But don’t let that get in the way of your paranoia.
    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    The fact is that improvements in sanitation and nutrition is the real reason that the rate of deaths from measles has decreased.
    Please explain the dramatic progress achieved in sanitation and nutrition that occured in Wales and Egland the exact same year the Measles vaccine was licienced there



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberk View Post
    The rate of death is lissted as per 1000 cases i already explained that to you. the dramatically smaller the number of case skews the results.
    Interpreting graphs doesn't seem to be your strongpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Interpreting graphs doesn't seem to be your strongpoint.

    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    your chart refers to deaths /1000 cases.
    it is therefore skewed as they were bugger all cases.

    But don’t let that get in the way of your paranoia.



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    Do you see how the rate of deaths was decreasing rapidly for a few decades before the vaccine even became available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Do you see how the rate of deaths was decreasing rapidly for a few decades before the vaccine even became available?
    You are gish galloping again Measles is a disease that distribution of outbreaks flows in waves of outbreaks.

    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Where have you previously ever stated that your dog are vaccinated?
    Why would you vaccinate your dogs considering you keep telling everyone its not safe to vaccinate afterall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    The number of cases didn't drop dramatically in 1964.
    Oh really?

    it dropped by 350000 cases and never rose again above 100000



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberk View Post
    Oh really?
    You do realise that graph isn't showing the rate of deaths from measles, don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    You do realise that graph isn't showing the rate of deaths from measles, don't you?
    Nice edit........



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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    The fact is that improvements in sanitation and nutrition is the real reason that the rate of deaths from measles has decreased.
    As measles are a virus ... are you declaring that just "sanitation and nutrition" cures and/or prevent their spread ... ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    As measles are a virus ... are you declaring that just "sanitation and nutrition" cures and/or prevent their spread ... ???
    Shhssssssss it a coincidence that in every country in the world when vaccination was started that the incidence dropped off dramaically



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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    As measles are a virus ... are you declaring that just "sanitation and nutrition" cures and/or prevent their spread ... ???
    Just prevents the majority of their deaths it would appear.

    I'm not sure why the incidence rate is being ignored though, surely how effective a vaccine is should be measured by how effectively it reduced the number of those afflicted by the disease, rather than just those killed by it (which also clearly went down when the number of afflicted dropped over 80% and the deaths per case only continued its slight downward trend).
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberk View Post
    Nice edit........
    What edit?

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