Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Katman]

And this brings back to the point - even if everything you say is true - does it outweigh the verifiable risk of Death (from preventable disease)?

[TheDemonLord]

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You know what is fucking hilarious?

If it's kids being blown up by US bombs in middle eastern parts of the world (preventable death) - you are all up in arms
If it's kids suffering from preventable disease based on a supposed miniscule possibility of a neurological condition (and some autists do quite well for themselves in later life) - suddenly you are completely ambivalent.

All in the name of maintaining a narrative eh Katman?

[Katman]

You know what is fucking hilarious?

If it's kids being blown up by US bombs in middle eastern parts of the world (preventable death) - you are all up in arms
If it's kids suffering from preventable disease based on a supposed miniscule possibility of a neurological condition (and some autists do quite well for themselves in later life) - suddenly you are completely ambivalent.

All in the name of maintaining a narrative eh Katman?

What's equally hilarious* is that you don't appear to give a fuck about innocent children dying in the Middle East - but just let one child die from Measles and your world seemingly falls apart.

What was that you were saying about maintaining a narrative?

*(What's even funnier is that you seem completely oblivious to the extreme ironing).

[Ocean1]

Wrong.

It was shown a number of pages ago that the death rate from measles declined enormously over a 30-40 year period prior to the vaccine even being discovered.

Do try to keep up.

There's that Inverse Snopes thing again...

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/co...-measles-cases

And you wonder why nobody listens to anything you say. The extent to which you're full of shit is painfully obvious, you're not just failing to keep up, you're headed in completely the wrong direction.

[Katman]

There's that Inverse Snopes thing again...

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/co...-measles-cases

And you wonder why nobody listens to anything you say. The extent to which you're full of shit is painfully obvious, you're not just failing to keep up, you're headed in completely the wrong direction.

Do you understand the difference between incidence of measles and death from measles?

Here, I'll help you out.

http://www.healthsentinel.com/joomla...us-measles.jpg

[Ocean1]

Do you understand the difference between incidence of measles and death from measles?

Here, I'll help you out.

http://www.healthsentinel.com/joomla...us-measles.jpg

Yes.

So what?

[Katman]

Yes.

So what?

So you'll notice that the rate of death from measles started to fall dramatically over a 30-40 year period prior to the vaccine being discovered then.

Just like I said.

[Ocean1]

So you'll notice that the rate of death from measles started to fall dramatically over a 30-40 year period prior to the vaccine being discovered then.

Just like I said.

Yes. And as I said: so fucking what?

[husaberg]

So you'll notice that the rate of death from measles started to fall dramatically over a 30-40 year period prior to the vaccine being discovered then.

Just like I said.

Yeah whatever
The rubella vaccine was first licensed in 1969

Rubella is a common infection in many areas of the world. Each year about 100,000 cases of congenital rubella syndrome occur.
Rubella can cause congenital rubella syndrome in the newborn. The syndrome (CRS) follows intrauterine infection by the rubella virus and comprises cardiac, cerebral, ophthalmic and auditory defects.It may also cause prematurity, low birth weight, and neonatal thrombocytopenia, anemia and hepatitis. The risk of major defects or organogenesis is highest for infection in the first trimester. CRS is the main reason a vaccine for rubella was developed.
Many mothers who contract rubella within the first critical trimester either have a miscarriage or a stillborn baby. If the fetus survives the infection, it can be born with severe heart disorders (patent ductus arteriosus being the most common), blindness, deafness, or other life-threatening organ disorders. The skin manifestations are called "blueberry muffin lesions". For these reasons, rubella is included on the TORCH complex of perinatal infections.

The vaccine is now usually given as part of the MMR vaccine. The WHO recommends the first dose be given at 12 to 18 months of age with a second dose at 36 months. Pregnant women are usually tested for immunity to rubella early on. Women found to be susceptible are not vaccinated until after the baby is born because the vaccine contains live virus.
The immunisation program has been quite successful. Cuba declared the disease eliminated in the 1990s, and in 2004 the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced that both the congenital and acquired forms of rubella had been eliminated from the United States

Vaccination has interrupted the transmission of rubella in the Americas: no endemic case has been observed since February 2009.[ Since the virus can always be reintroduced from other continents, the population still need to remain vaccinated to keep the western hemisphere free of rubella. During the epidemic in the U.S. between 1962–1965, rubella virus infections during pregnancy were estimated to have caused 30,000 stillbirths and 20,000 children to be born impaired or disabled as a result of CRS. Universal immunisation producing a high level of herd immunity is important in the control of epidemics of rubella.
In the UK, there remains a large population of men susceptible to rubella who have not been vaccinated. Outbreaks of rubella occurred amongst many young men in the UK in 1993 and in 1996 the infection was transmitted to pregnant women, many of whom were immigrants and were susceptible. Outbreaks still arise, usually in developing countries where the vaccine is not as accessible

[Katman]

Yes. And as I said: so fucking what?

Just to refresh your memory.....

As has been previously shown, the risk of death these days is extremely minimal.

Which is true. Because vaccines.

Wrong.

It was shown a number of pages ago that the death rate from measles declined enormously over a 30-40 year period prior to the vaccine even being discovered.

There's that Inverse Snopes thing again...

Do you understand the difference between incidence of measles and death from measles?

Yes.

So what?

[Ocean1]

Just to refresh your memory.....

So you don't actually have a point.

[FJRider]

Wrong.

It was shown a number of pages ago that the death rate from measles declined enormously over a 30-40 year period prior to the vaccine even being discovered.

Do try to keep up.

Known Infectious diseases were treated by keeping patients in isolation. And it worked.

Vaccine's were for prevention ... not cure.

Do try to think.

[Katman]

So you don't actually have a point.

My point was to show you where you were wrong.

[FJRider]

So you don't actually have a point.

He loves quoting himself.

That ... is the point.

[Katman]

Known Infectious diseases were treated by keeping patients in isolation. And it worked.

Vaccine's were for prevention ... not cure.

Do try to think.

Who the fuck ever suggested vaccines were designed as a cure?