Go Pros create unsafe riders

[pritch]

What I would ask you is how do you know if the vehicle in the next lane is going to create an incident in the first place? If you think its possible you could just speed up to ensure you were past them in the event they decide to change lanes but if you are in bumper to bumper traffic in your lane you could try and lane split maybe but that does carry its own risks too. Life is a risk!

On reading this I find myself shaking my head. Your questions indicate you just don't have a fucking clue. Please stop posting on safety matters. It's just possible somebody with limited comprehension skills and/or judgement might mistakenly think you actually knew what you were talking about.

[Moi]

On reading this I find myself shaking my head. Your questions indicate you just don't have a fucking clue. Please stop posting on safety matters. It's just possible somebody with limited comprehension skills and/or judgement might mistakenly think you actually knew what you were talking about.

For a moment there I thought you were addressing me... then I saw to whom you were responding... Whew!

[Honest Andy]

diddums...

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[caseye]

On reading this I find myself shaking my head. Your questions indicate you just don't have a fucking clue. Please stop posting on safety matters. It's just possible somebody with limited comprehension skills and/or judgement might mistakenly think you actually knew what you were talking about.

My Point all along you lot, this idiot is making us all look like were condoning hér advice by continuing to have ordinary motorcyclists trying to reason with IT! YOU CANT!

[Moi]

You could indicate to pull off to the side of the road until the traffic has passed too. But really with all the doubt you have its time to give up riding I think.

You don't seem to understand the rules of this...

I am asking the questions and you are answering them.

Not the other way round.

So, how about going back to my post and having a go at answering the questions...

[eldog]

Poster #154 awesome as a witness in a court room., ya think!

"please answer the question poster #154"

passed school cert by questioning the exam questions.

"more dangerous to be at home than on the road" says ACC spokesperson poster #154

stopped by Mr Plod "do you know the speed limit in this area"
poster #154 replied "I was accelerating to get past you in case you turned around, which you did to follow me, I was being safe, that's why I ploughed off the road, watching the animal on the side of the road, I went on the footpath, as it is safer according to my logic and the number of ACC claims"

does one assume that you haven't taught anyone else to use the public road system

poster #154 never wrong

[Moi]

Well if I have all the answers wrong give them to me then or are you worried I will see flaws in them?

I did not say you were wrong, I just asked/suggested that you might have more options...

[eldog]

I did not say you were wrong, I just asked/suggested that you might have more options...

+1

poster #154 give us some alternatives/options rather than avoid with other questions and tangents
I am sure you can do it.

[Akzle]

Ok if I only gave some of the right answers lets hear the rest from you?

dont fret, no cunt's yet accused you of having even "some of the right answers"

[Moi]

Ok if I only gave some of the right answers lets hear the rest from you?

OK, off you go...

You said:
What I would ask you is how do you know if the vehicle in the next lane is going to create an incident in the first place?

I replied:
I don't know, but I can operate on the "what if" principle.

You said:
If you think it's possible you could just speed up to ensure you were past them in the event they decide to change lanes...
I replied:
True, but what else could I do?

You said:
...but if you are in bumper to bumper traffic in your lane you could try and lane split maybe but that does carry its own risks too. Life is a risk!
I replied:
Yes, I could lane split, but as you say lane splitting can be risky.

I'd argue that if the traffic is that heavy that it is bumper-to-bumper then there are still things, apart from lane splitting, I could do to avoid being hit - what could that be?



Remember - you're thinking about the scenario I gave...

[nzspokes]

That would not work if you are in bumper to bumper traffic as if you widen the gap between the vehicle in front someone following will likely overtake you and close the gap.

So if the traffic is bumper to bumper, why would you plan to overtake?

[ellipsis]

So if the traffic is bumper to bumper, why would you plan to overtake?

...'cos it's really just a big group ride...silly...

[Berries]

OK, off you go....

Why do you even bother?

[Moi]

The poster that asked the questions has a fear of the car in the right hand lane changing lanes without seeing him and if there is bumper to bumper traffic he would have no option but to lane split which has its own risks. If he can not live with such fear he should give up riding I feel.

As the person who gave the scenario, which is:

I'm riding, or for that matter driving, in the left lane of two lanes. There's another vehicle in the right lane lane. That vehicle suddenly and unexpectedly pulls over to the left and enters my lane. Other vehicle almost hits me, perhaps they do hit me...

I did not mention fear of the car in the right hand lane - that's a red herring.

I did not mention density of traffic - that's a red herring.

I do have other options than to "lane split".

I have no intention of giving up riding.



So, let's get back to the scenario...

thinking about position, awareness, space, speed, environment, weather...

[Moi]

Why do you even bother?

I like hitting my head against a brick wall...

No!

As has been said before, misinformation needs to be challenged and corrected for the benefit of those who are not sure if it is misinformation.

However, it does raise the question "Is this person for real?". Is it someone who has survived on a bike more by good luck than anything else or is it someone who is highly skilled and playing devil's advocate in order to make others think about their own riding?

If the former than a few Ride4Ever courses would be a good investment - paging RastusCat...

If the later, perhaps they need to come clean about it and approach the topic from a different angle.

Now, back to my morning coffee and Saturday's Herald.