Go Pros create unsafe riders

[caspernz]

All this angst has left me wishing I hadn't started this whole mess.

Forgive me, fellow moto folk.

Nothing to forgive RC, the sheer folly of cassina repeatedly stating that road use is just about luck...needs to be countered with some Roadcraft reason. Even if I'm replaying an old army joke in my head, sergeant on the shooting range asking us whether we know the difference between a 0.338 and a 0.50 round? No difference if it's coming at you... I really shouldn't say any more

Nothing to forgive.


If discussion gives people food for thought, then all good.


Just worried in case someone turns up on one of your Ride4Ever courses - would you forgive us?

It would be eminently funny to have a group KB Ride Forever booking...now that would need to be recorded on a GoPro!

[Moi]

have another look at your last post you state that I'm suggesting Rastus should've done x.....x & suggest Rastus should've done X

Were you suggesting that such things could be picked up as part of the teaching situation? The way I read it that is what came across. I suggested that reading what Rastus had written suggested he had picked up on these points and they had been discussed. Personally, I would be surprised if a motorcycle instructor didn't pick up on such points, they are situations where a biker could easily put themselves in harms way.

Where I chimed in I said the use of discretion on whether one uses what the pupil has caught on film as a educational tool whether it be help them more readily identify what they're missing to put themselves in a close-call situation with others or rectify an issue they're creating of their own accord.You do realise you're dealing with peoples lives? If so then surely correcting issues or even adding the smallest bit of helpful insight or slightest bit of extra education is worth it.....one wee piece may be the difference between years of enjoyment or becoming a statistic.

I don't disagree with you. And I believe that is what was done...

If a camera catches something good or bad it's a bit of information others can use.

Yes, especially as you say in a teaching/learning situation.

There's plenty of halfwits out there that think they'll shine in glory posting their exploits on youtube...they get plenty of views for all reasons....look at the ones posted here recently they soon get picked apart with surgical dissection. In a learning environment if a pupil has a camera & does mention incidents caught....have a look, point out errors, educate...simple. Remember people don't all learn by the same means so the more tools available the better the chance of educating more thoroughly.

I agree...

The test is a side issue and wasn't relevant to was being said apart from being misinterpreted into the text of the post.

Time to making a booking then

The test, if you look at my post #79 I start by saying "I don't disagree with what you are saying" in response to your post [#78]. Yes I went on to discuss/explain the assessment practices associated with pass/fail tests, perhaps that wasn't necessary - although I felt that there had been some possible confusion several posts earlier about what was appropriate behaviour by an assessor in an assessment situation. But I don't see it as distracting from your comments in the previous post, with which I had already stated my agreement.

[caseye]

Nothing to forgive RC, the sheer folly of cassina repeatedly stating that road use is just about luck...needs to be countered with some Roadcraft reason. Even if I'm replaying an old army joke in my head, sergeant on the shooting range asking us whether we know the difference between a 0.338 and a 0.50 round? No difference if it's coming at you... I really shouldn't say any more



It would be eminently funny to have a group KB Ride Forever booking...now that would need to be recorded on a GoPro!

Now come on Be Reasonable, Pleseeeeeeeeeeee!
I doubt even Rastus would take on that lot. You'd need a wide angled lense to get all them KBérs in the frame for a start.

[eldog]

I dont think....... anyone on here would turn up for a KB group lesson out of fear their riding is found to be as bad as they claim mine is.

is that a challenge?
would you turn up?

no fear if my riding was worse than yours, I am always open to suggestions to improve.

[eldog]

I think........riding school lessons are subsidised by ACC and can only be group lessons anyway. With ACC funding only lasting so many hours for each lesson it would be unreasonable to expect the instructor to watch a video as well before or after the lesson unless maybe extra payment was made to the instructor. Volunteer IAMs instructors who do it for love and not money could be interested in analysing a video maybe.

Or do you surmise what you know.

perhaps time for you to do your own Research.....

unlikely I suppose with your previous form

[caseye]

is that a challenge?
would you turn up?

no fear if my riding was worse than yours, I am always open to suggestions to improve.

And he does! Improve that is. With every ride he goes on, on his todd or with a bunch of older moaning bitching has beens. I'd back ol Eldog against anything Bitch Features could produce any day of the week.

[eldog]

If you have exact info on how riding schools are funded feel free to correct me.

Do do it for yourself.

we are doing this for you.

[rastuscat]

I've been dying to say this for ages.

Sod yez all.

[nzspokes]

No right especially if its motorbike or car v 4WD in a head on. Why do you think they are so popular? Sitting higher up like on a motorbike in a 4WD improves your periferal vision too giving you a better chance to avoid the screw ups of others. Take one for a test drive some time. They dont corner quite as well as cars though but many today have car like suspension making them much more stable in bends than the ones made 20 years ago.

What is its Ancap rating?

[scumdog]

I've been dying to say this for ages.

Sod yez all.

oooh, you rotter!

[rastuscat]

oooh, you rotter!

It coulda bin werse

[caseye]

I've been dying to say this for ages.

Sod yez all.

OK. Now you've got that off of your chest.
Tell Her, to go pull her head off and shove it up her aris! Which is where I'd wager it's been for quite some time.
Have to say though, tough as nails us KBérs, didn't hurt a bit!

[FJRider]

sergeant on the shooting range asking us whether we know the difference between a 0.338 and a 0.50 round? No difference if it's coming at you...

One leaves a hole you can live with ... the other doesn't ...

Top tip ... learn to duck.

[FJRider]

I dont think anyone on here would turn up for a KB group lesson out of fear their riding is found to be as bad as they claim mine is.

It's only as bad as you tell us it is ... who are we to argue the point .. ???

[FJRider]

If you have exact info on how riding schools are funded feel free to correct me.

For you ... crowd funded might be possible ... maybe a give a little page ...