Free speech.

[FJRider]

Well if you are anti war you just gotta be blocked outa twitter it seems?

Why would anybody be anti-war ... ??? a good war does wonders for the economy. Look at all the employment they create ... even for the ones at home ...

[Voltaire]

Well isn't that just how East Germany described the Berlin wall and all the fencing around the rest of its borders back in the day?

I rode around the Eastern Bloc once, the first thing you notice is the lack of all the tasty American Food outlets, advertising and expensive anything. My then 17 year old BMW was like driving around in a Ferrari.
In 2004 driving my 1971 VW Kombi thru Romania the kids counted 100 horse drawn carts after crossing the Danube from Bulgaria, but lots of expensive European cars too, good to see the 1% doing nicely.

[Berries]

Well if you are anti war you just gotta be blocked outa twitter it seems?

Sure it's not the beards?

[Graystone]

Freedom of speech and freedom to protest are closely linked – But they are not one and the same. Free speech would mean nothing if there was no right to use public spaces to make your views known (but private places can be ... ).

The rights to free speech and protest, along with the right to form and join associations or groups, are found in Articles 10 and 11 of the Human Rights Act.

These rights can be limited by law to protect the interests of others, but only when the limitation is proportionate and necessary in a Democratic society.

So, for example:

the right to free speech will not protect a person who tries to spread hateful lies against another but it will protect fair comment;

the right to protest won’t protect violent gatherings but it will protect peaceful protest.

In recent years we have seen a variety of measures introduced that undermine the right to protest and freedom of speech ...

1. Laws intended to combat anti-social behaviour, terrorism and serious crime are routinely used against legitimate protesters;

2. Broadly drafted anti-terrorism offences of 'encouragement' and 'glorification' of terrorism threaten to make careless talk a crime;

3. Membership of certain organisations can be banned under anti-terror laws even if the organisation is non-violent and political;

4. Hate speech laws have been extended in a piecemeal way to ban ever-expanding categories of speech;

5. Broad anti-terrorism powers of stop and search have been used to harass and stifle peaceful protesters;

6. Protest around Parliament has been severely restricted by laws limiting and overly regulating the right to assemble and protest around
Parliament.


Is this The New Zealand you want ... ??? and is there a (Democratic ??) party in NZ willing to (try to) change/better it ... ??

Stop reading so many dystopian sci fi novels. Of those 6 things, how many are actually happening as you describe them?

[oldrider]

I rode around the Eastern Bloc once, the first thing you notice is the lack of all the tasty American Food outlets, advertising and expensive anything. My then 17 year old BMW was like driving around in a Ferrari.
In 2004 driving my 1971 VW Kombi thru Romania the kids counted 100 horse drawn carts after crossing the Danube from Bulgaria, but lots of expensive European cars too, good to see the 1% doing nicely.

Not that I am advocating anything but I would like you to do that same trip again now and see if there is actually any difference - it would be interesting.

[Swoop]

And here's the fucking goober who made the complaint. A Bachelor of Social Work (Hons) no less... colour me absolutely fucking stunned! His letter is as incoherent as you'd expect.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/kardi...0669364995301/

A leading example of The Regressive Left.

[Voltaire]

Not that I am advocating anything but I would like you to do that same trip again now and see if there is actually any difference - it would be interesting.

The two trips were 15 years apart, the Soviet Era was gone( ish) and everyone was scoffing Maccers and Coke. Probably now deep in debt with crap they didn't really need. Even the town with Vlad the Impaler's castle had a Tesco's down the road.

[FJRider]

Stop reading so many dystopian sci fi novels. Of those 6 things, how many are actually happening as you describe them?

Already happened. Not science fiction ... and more to come ...

[FJRider]

Stop reading so many dystopian sci fi novels. Of those 6 things, how many are actually happening as you describe them?

ALL ... have happened. Legislation is already in place.

[Graystone]

Already happened. Not science fiction ... and more to come ...

ALL ... have happened. Legislation is already in place.

Could I get a source for #2 then? preferably not from Hunger Games...

[FJRider]

Could I get a source for #2 then? preferably not from Hunger Games...

Don't you have access to google ??? ... easy to find the legislation.

Pick any of the six I gave you in Google (or your desired search engine) and see for yourself.

If you can't see the need to check for yourself ... then imagine the the millions in NZ that won't either ...

[Graystone]

Don't you have access to google ??? ... easy to find the legislation.

Pick any of the six I gave you in Google (or your desired search engine) and see for yourself.

If you can't see the need to check for yourself ... then imagine the the millions in NZ that won't either ...

Figured as much. If you can't even provide evidence for one, why should anyone take heed?

[FJRider]

Could I get a source for #2 then? preferably not from Hunger Games...

Heavy reading ... you can skip a few pages and read the titles for the gist of the page.

I dont think you will though ... lazy pricks never will. Why the legalization is already in place.

https://www.otago.ac.nz/law/otago636743.pdf

[FJRider]

Figured as much. If you can't even provide evidence for one, why should anyone take heed?

The attitude of around three million others ...

[Graystone]

Heavy reading ... you can skip a few pages and read the titles for the gist of the page.

I dont think you will though ... lazy pricks never will. Why the legalization is already in place.

https://www.otago.ac.nz/law/otago636743.pdf

What in there, specifically backs up #2

The attitude of around three million others ...

Of course, it would be irrational to give heed to every whiner bleating on about some bullshit. If you can't provide a modicum of evidence for your bleating, why should anyone listen?