The 1080 debate

[Woodman]

The legislation deals with killing a native species - not failing to save it.

Well thank fuck whoever decided to use 1080, did use 1080 instead of fucking around trying to please all the handwringers like yourself.

[Katman]

Well thank fuck whoever decided to use 1080, did use 1080 instead of fucking around trying to please all the handwringers like yourself.

I doubt the dead Keas agree with you.

[sidecar bob]

I doubt the dead Keas agree with you.

Thank Christ the Maoris rendered the Moa extinct, at least we can't blame 1080 for that.

[Woodman]

I doubt the dead Keas agree with you.

Yet the kea lady in kahurangi is pro 1080 even though she is well aware that some keas have died from 1080, but the kea population has increased dramatically due to 1080. You see she actually knows how it actually is.

[skippa1]

Nice to see debate about the issues but i still dont see a viable alternative and to cease 1080 drops without would seem to be neglegent to me.

[Katman]

Nice to see debate about the issues but i still dont see a viable alternative and to cease 1080 drops without would seem to be neglegent to me.

I suppose it begs the question 'just how much effort is really going into looking for an alternative - or how an alternative could be made to work?'

[skippa1]

I suppose it begs the question 'just how much effort is really going into looking for an alternative - or how an alternative could be made to work?'

All relevant. I guess my concern is that the protests focus on cessation without that alternative.....and not only that, they threaten violence and uncontrolled interference with vehicles, choppers etc.

[Katman]

All relevant. I guess my concern is that the protests focus on cessation without that alternative.....and not only that, they threaten violence and uncontrolled interference with vehicles, choppers etc.

And as I've already stated, looking to switch to alternative methods in areas where they could easily be implemented would show a readiness to look for compromise.

Or have we really become a society where compromise is a thing of the past?

[nzspokes]

Thank Christ the Maoris rendered the Moa extinct, at least we can't blame 1080 for that.

You missed post #195 then.....

Locally 1080 is being blamed as the cause of Kauri die back.

[skippa1]

And as I've already stated, looking to switch to alternative methods in areas where they could easily be implemented would show a readiness to look for compromise.

Or have we really become a society where compromise is a thing of the past?

Which alternative method?

[husaberg]

And as I've already stated, looking to switch to alternative methods in areas where they could easily be implemented would show a readiness to look for compromise.

Or have we really become a society where compromise is a thing of the past?

No you said there are viable alternatives to 1080 but then failed to tell us what they were. You also claimed (falsely) its the most inhuman method

I'm all for protecting native species but is choosing the most inhumane method, simply because it's the cheapest option, really the way an advanced society should deal with an issue?

There are viable alternatives.

Yes, they might be more expensive - but that was the whole point behind post #1.

(And by the way, I'd feed 1080 to you in a heartbeat).

[Katman]

Which alternative method?

Trapping.

As I've said, not all areas that are subjected to aerial drops can be described as 'inaccessible'.

[skippa1]

Trapping.

As I've said, not all areas that are subjected to aerial drops can be described as 'inaccessible'.

Trapping isnt a real alternative

[husaberg]

Trapping.

As I've said, not all areas that are subjected to aerial drops can be described as 'inaccessible'.

You have also said that there is viable alternatives to our use of 1080
all you prove by your statements is you dont actually know what you are talking about.

[Katman]

Trapping isnt a real alternative

Well it's certainly not if you approach it with that mindset.