The journey that COVID-19 will take us on

[pete376403]

I didn’t think you were capable of being a terrorist sympathiser... but you just called the alleged 911 hijackers courageous....

FWIW I was definitely referrring to Saudi military’s shortcomings and as a follow on the incompetence off the hijackers....

I am not a terrorist sympathiser. But courage is not something limited to only the people on "our" side. Kamikaze pilots were courageous. Maori armed only with spears and clubs, facing the British soldiers were courageous. The British soldiers facing the Maori were equally courageous.

On the other hand the Christchurch terrorist was not courageous in any way, he did not expose himself to any risk.

Also, why do you refer to the hijackers as alleged? Are you doubtful as to whether they really did it?

[F5 Dave]

He's doubtful of the moon landings and not entirely convinced the earth isn't flat. He's just asking the questions.

[Beekeeper]

paint me pink chuck me in naughty corner, pop out for a while and nek minit we have a zillion pages of pointless drivel. I bet Katman still flinging turds at the old bill down in Wellington.

[TheDemonLord]

paint me pink chuck me in naughty corner, pop out for a while and nek minit we have a zillion pages of pointless drivel. I bet Katman still flinging turds at the old bill down in Wellington.

Katman got yeeted from the site some time ago.

[sugilite:Me]

What? Pollies throwing themselves into the limelight to take credit that is not due, but nowhere to be seen when it is bad news and incompetence is revealed? - surely not!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...ter-to-be-seen

[F5 Dave]

In my job my performance is largely based on the actions of other companies which is troublesome at best.

I'm just glad it's not based on performance of government department workers. Cause, you know?

[F5 Dave]

Well another 5 dead.

So are you happy now? I'm talking to the Cunts who says it is mild or will argue that the victims didn't have a right to live because some of them may have been old or sick or unlucky or too far from medical help.

You go tell that to their families. And the thousands of others who would already be dead if we listened to the continuous disinformation prevalent at the start of this thread and political pressure meant we followed Britain's or the USs lead.

Oh but I was only 'asking questions '. No you weren't. You fuking weren't.

[Kickaha]

Well another 5 dead.

So are you happy now? I'm talking to the Cunts who says it is mild or will argue that the victims didn't have a right to live because some of them may have been old or sick or unlucky or too far from medical help.

You go tell that to their families. And the thousands of others who would already be dead if we listened to the continuous disinformation prevalent at the start of this thread and political pressure meant we followed Britain's or the USs lead.

Oh but I was only 'asking questions '. No you weren't. You fuking weren't.

But did they die "with covid" or "from covid" apparently there's some bullshit distinction we're meant to make so it appears less serious

[mulletman]

But did they die "with covid" or "from covid" apparently there's some bullshit distinction we're meant to make so it appears less serious

Stuff reports died with and were in hosp already with other issues - bullshit ?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/hea...unity-outbreak

[TheDemonLord]

But did they die "with covid" or "from covid" apparently there's some bullshit distinction we're meant to make so it appears less serious

https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/03/04/n...with-covid-19/

The person was in hospital for an unrelated condition but had tested positive for the virus.

A patient also passed away at Waikato Hospital on Thursday. The person died of an unrelated medical condition and had tested positive for the virus.

Finally, a person in Dunedin who died of an unrelated medical condition on Thursday while receiving palliative care had tested positive for the virus.

Yes, I'll take "Things TDL was right about for $1,000"

So that would be "With Covid" and clearly there's a very real distinction...

[FJRider]

... So that would be "With Covid" and clearly there's a very real distinction...

The "Distinction" is the in the answer of one simple question ...


Would the individual have died sooner the time frame (as in ... sooner than the "Underlying conditions" they already had ... would normally require) if they did not have Covid .. ???



IF they DID die sooner ... then covid killed them.

[TheDemonLord]

The "Distinction" is the in the answer of one simple question ...

Would the individual have died sooner the time frame (as in ... sooner than the "Underlying conditions" they already had ... would normally require) if they did not have Covid .. ???

I mean, if you've already gone to the hospital for the condition that is killing you...

IF they DID die sooner ... then covid killed them.

So, if you are 90 and get fataly Stabbed, and being old caused you to die sooner, did old age kill you? Or did the stab wound kill you?

Answers to a Defence lawyer, please.

[husaberg]

You know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April.
…when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.
It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.
I said, ‘Calm. You have to be calm.’ It’ll go away.
We’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.
You know, we need a little a separation until such time as this goes away. It’s going to go away. It’s going to go away.
Stay calm. It will go away. You know it — you know it is going away, and it will go away. And we’re going to have a great victory.
It’s going to go away, hopefully at the end of the month. And, if not, hopefully it will be soon after that
It is going to go away. It is going away.
It did go — it will go away.
But a lot of movement and a lot of progress has been made in a vaccine. But I think what happens is it’s going to go away. This is going to go away.

And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?
"The disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. It gets in the lungs"

[F5 Dave]

Well another 5 dead.

So are you happy now? I'm talking to the Cunts who says it is mild or will argue that the victims didn't have a right to live because some of them may have been old or sick or unlucky or too far from medical help.

You go tell that to their families. And the thousands of others who would already be dead if we listened to the continuous disinformation prevalent at the start of this thread and political pressure meant we followed Britain's or the USs lead.

Oh but I was only 'asking questions '. No you weren't. You fuking weren't.

And so people dont have the right to live because they may, or may not have other issues?

Well how about Fuck You!

Fuck you hard you Evil Wankers.

[TheDemonLord]

And so people dont have the right to live because they may, or may not have other issues?

Well how about Fuck You!

Fuck you hard you Evil Wankers.

Y'know... arguing with yourself is a sign of Mental Illness....

No one has said anything about a 'Right to live'.

There are 2 issues here:

The first is reporting of '5 COVID Deaths' when in reality it's more like 2 (and given the willful deceitfulness of the reporting, I'm skeptical to even include those). People who have died, and I quote, 'died of an unrelated medical condition' - why are they being included? We know why - to bump up the Numbers.

The second issue is one of reality: People Die. People die because they made bad choices, People die because the wheel of fortune stopped spinning on the segment that said 'Well, Fuck you'. And here's the kicker - we ride motorcycles, we spin that wheel on the regular - and some of us have gotten off with scars and a story to tell, others not so lucky.

No one is advocating that we don't try and treat these people - So this whole strawman of 'They don't have a right to live' can stop right there.

The fact is that when someone is already in palliative care or already in hospital for an unrelated illness (the same illness that killed them), it's safe to say that they are past the point of no return, they aren't going to get better.