The journey that COVID-19 will take us on

[TheDemonLord]

It IS the point if they are at risk of catching covid. "Palliative care" ... is care for a person (of any age) who has a life-limiting illness. Palliative care involves supporting and helping the person to live as comfortably and fully as possible (The official description of Palliative care). The usual effect of contracting covid is to cause death sooner. Thus ... covid killed them sooner than they would have without a covid intervention.

Thusly ... died of covid.

My entire reply to your argument is this:

"Therefore your Honor, the deceased did not die of the alleged stab wound from my Client, they did in fact die of Old age - as per FJRider - and as such, no man can be found guilty of Murder for the crime of Old Age."

/Sarcasm.

That is essentially what you are arguing and it's just as absurd as the way the death stats are reported, and everyone knows it.

[neels]

My entire reply to your argument is this:

"Therefore your Honor, the deceased did not die of the alleged stab wound from my Client, they did in fact die of Old age - as per FJRider - and as such, no man can be found guilty of Murder for the crime of Old Age."

/Sarcasm.

That is essentially what you are arguing and it's just as absurd as the way the death stats are reported, and everyone knows it.

You are making an equally absurd black/white argument, saying it can either be the sole cause, or can't be any part of the cause. Health is not black/white, and everyone knows it.

There will be people who have existing health conditions, who would have continued to live for many years had they not contracted covid, but now they are dead. Which puts things in the middle ground, where covid was a contributing factor to their death, so their death is covid related.

Covid doesn't have to be the sole cause to be included as part of the cause.

[FJRider]

My entire reply to your argument is this:

"Therefore your Honor, the deceased did not die of the alleged stab wound from my Client, they did in fact die of Old age - as per FJRider - and as such, no man can be found guilty of Murder for the crime of Old Age."

/Sarcasm.

That is essentially what you are arguing and it's just as absurd as the way the death stats are reported, and everyone knows it.

And my entire reply is ...

Please explain this reply ... especially in the part you quoted of my comment ... NO mention of a stab was made.

Note my post was ...

It IS the point if they are at risk of catching covid. "Palliative care" ... is care for a person (of any age) who has a life-limiting illness. Palliative care involves supporting and helping the person to live as comfortably and fully as possible (The official description of Palliative care). The usual effect of contracting covid is to cause death sooner. Thus ... covid killed them sooner than they would have without a covid intervention.

Where is the stab wound mentioned ... more straws being grasped at perhaps ...

Desperation is quoting one post ... and replying in the context of a reply to another post ... or part of a post.

You must try harder. You're just making yourself look sillier ...

Sarcasm no ... just stupidity.

AND entirely out of context ... and out of reality ...



As per normal ...



Have a nice day ...


I've asked it before ... is English your second language .. ??


Just asking ... again ...

[husaberg]

You are making an equally absurd black/white argument, saying it can either be the sole cause, or can't be any part of the cause. Health is not black/white, and everyone knows it.

There will be people who have existing health conditions, who would have continued to live for many years had they not contracted covid, but now they are dead. Which puts things in the middle ground, where covid was a contributing factor to their death, so their death is covid related.

Covid doesn't have to be the sole cause to be included as part of the cause.

maybe that is why they get qualified people to determine the cause of death and give them time to gather the information rather than just let right wing it help desk employees with their own agenda determine why, as they want to claim its part of some sinister plot against them...

[TheDemonLord]

You are making an equally absurd black/white argument, saying it can either be the sole cause, or can't be any part of the cause. Health is not black/white, and everyone knows it.

There will be people who have existing health conditions, who would have continued to live for many years had they not contracted covid, but now they are dead. Which puts things in the middle ground, where covid was a contributing factor to their death, so their death is covid related.

Covid doesn't have to be the sole cause to be included as part of the cause.

Sure - And that's absolutely fine.

But that isn't dying of an Unrelated Illness, is it?
Nor is that being in Palliative Care for a Terminal illness and dying from that illness, is it?

Hence the point about Dying With Covid vs Dying from Covid. 3 out of 5 of the 'Covid Deaths' on the info released by the Ministry would fall well within the Dying With.

The whole point of my parody was to sure how absurd the way the stats are being measured.

[TheDemonLord]

maybe that is why they get qualified people to determine the cause of death and give them time to gather the information rather than just let right wing it help desk employees with their own agenda determine why, as they want to claim its part of some sinister plot against them...

And when those qualified people say (and I quote):

'Died of an unrelated illness', that kinda goes against your narrative.


Cause that means they've already determined the cause of death, which is how they know what they died from and that it was unrelated.

Kinda how English works.

[TheDemonLord]

And my entire reply is ...

Please explain this reply ... especially in the part you quoted of my comment ... NO mention of a stab was made.

Note my post was ...

Where is the stab wound mentioned ... more straws being grasped at perhaps ...

Desperation is quoting one post ... and replying in the context of a reply to another post ... or part of a post.

You must try harder. You're just making yourself look sillier ...

Sarcasm no ... just stupidity.

AND entirely out of context ... and out of reality ...

As per normal ...

Have a nice day ...

I've asked it before ... is English your second language .. ??

Just asking ... again ...

The only reason I'm 'looking sillier' is because I'm parodying the way the Stats are reported. The way the stats are being done is silly, hence my reductio ad absurdum is equally silly.

Okay - let's try this again, using a real world example: What killed George Floyd? Was it Covid? or was it the Cop? And we know that Covid affects someone's ability to breathe and as you have so fastidiously pointed out and asserted that if Covid caused them to die sooner than they otherwise would have, Covid was the cause of Death.

Answers to the Defence lawyers please.

[TheDemonLord]

Don't want to let facts get in the way of a good story...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_George_Floyd

r/wooooooooosh

[pete376403]

To take the argument to extreme (and ridiculous lengths) We are all dying of a sexually transmitted condition. Some of us may go sooner than others, but we're all going to go in the end. Therefore there is no such thing as murder

[TheDemonLord]

To take the argument to extreme (and ridiculous lengths) We are all dying of a sexually transmitted condition. Some of us may go sooner than others, but we're all going to go in the end. Therefore there is no such thing as murder

I would rep but it's been too soon apparently.

[TheDemonLord]

You've admitted you're not from this country. Take your views with you, pack your bags and F*** off.

Please. You're not welcome here.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Progressive 'Tolerance'.

[husaberg]

To take the argument to extreme (and ridiculous lengths) We are all dying of a sexually transmitted condition. Some of us may go sooner than others, but we're all going to go in the end. Therefore there is no such thing as murder

the people who "man" the IT help desk don't normally catch sexually transmitted diseases

[Stylo]

Ladies and Gentlemen, Progressive 'Tolerance'.

George F.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_George_Floyd

[neels]

Sure - And that's absolutely fine.

But that isn't dying of an Unrelated Illness, is it?
Nor is that being in Palliative Care for a Terminal illness and dying from that illness, is it?

Hence the point about Dying With Covid vs Dying from Covid. 3 out of 5 of the 'Covid Deaths' on the info released by the Ministry would fall well within the Dying With.

The whole point of my parody was to sure how absurd the way the stats are being measured.

Now ya see, you've missed the point completely, and gone straight back to the either/or mentality, as either to be deliberately argumentative or through ignorance.

Were these people already in hospital, already in the throes of death, and subsequently contracted covid? Did they present at hospital with covid, and would they or would they not have been at hospital if they hadn't contracted covid?

For example: If someone had a long standing respiratory condition which they have successfully managed for a long time, then contracts covid which tips them over the edge and they end up in hospital and die, is their existing illness that kills them or covid. Is it possible that it's a combination of both?

To go back to the stabbing example: If someone is stabbed in the hand for cheating at cards, and is a hemophiliac and bleeds to death, what is the cause of death? Is being stabbed the only cause, even though most other people would survive the same injury? Or is their cause of death entirely hemophilia, and the stabbing is irrelevant as they would have bled to death at some point anyway? Or could it be an unlucky coincidence, and both are contributing factors?

[FJRider]

The only reason I'm 'looking sillier' is because I'm parodying the way the Stats are reported. The way the stats are being done is silly, hence my reductio ad absurdum is equally silly.

No ... you're looking sillier because you have the mental concentration (not to mention ... computer skills) of a mentally retarded 5 year old.

My apologies to all mentally retarded 5 year olds ... you're probably more intelligent than he is ... and have better computer skills ...

Okay - let's try this again,

TRY THIS ...

George Floyd didn't die of covid.


AND ... Changing the subject doesn't help your cause.

Police involved in that particular incident got more than a severe reprimand. Justice was carried out in a court of law.

A cop kneeling on your throat (I'd pay $$$ to see that) bears no resemblance (in principle or in practice) to a person that is (possibly) elderly ... and with enough medical issues ... For them to be seen as putting their lives in enough danger ... their own doctors have considered them to be dying.

Even WITHOUT/BEFORE being infected with Covid.

Even with their (guessed by doctors) time frame of life left for them prior to being infected with covid (by sloppy/incorrect health measures taken by "Health" staff in their place of residence) ... of maybe a year or so at best .. a covid infection might halve that. Maybe even LESS time than that (individual cases DO vary in length of remaining lifespans).

It's already known that hospital patients have died sooner than predicted due to a covid infection. YET ... YOU try to claim that it WASN'T covid that killed them. Dying a few months EARLIER was probably just a coincidence .. right .. ?? BUT ... If I am right ... ALL your bullshit claims and assertions would be THEN seen as TOTAL BULLSHIT.



Which they are.

Answers to the Defence lawyers please.

You wont need a lawyer ... you'll need a funeral director before you'll need a lawyer.

Known fact ... FAT USELESS FUCKERS usually die a horrible death.


Good luck with that in the future slim.


ps: The future always come sooner than you expect.