Putin

[pete376403]

https://www.americanpurpose.com/arti...YHAmz9VIZGA4wo
The war to this point has been a good lesson for China. Like Russia, China has built up seemingly high-tech military forces in the past decade, but they have no combat experience. The miserable performance of the Russian air force would likely be replicated by the People’s Liberation Army Air Force, which similarly has no experience managing complex air operations. We may hope that the Chinese leadership will not delude itself as to its own capabilities the way the Russians did when contemplating a future move against Taiwan.

[FJRider]

I think his point is, that same stone age army also defeated the soviet union, he just left that part out by mistake.

The stone age army I referred to had a better kill score. And they also beat the French.

Figured out THAT location yet .. ??

[FJRider]

Loosing a War in another part of the world were you don't share a Border is embarassing, but it's not the same as having your border invaded.

Policy and tactics are two different things. Get it wrong on either (or both) of those points ... will lose you the war.


You can bet that Putin's Policy AND tactics ... differ (greatly) from those of the USA.

And if Putin regards the Ukraine as still being Soviet territory ... or being unjustly claimed as an independent Country ... it wont end well for the Ukraine.



Personally ... I think Putin will be producing T-shirts with ... Make the USSR GREAT again.


Watch this space ...

[TheDemonLord]

And they also beat the French.

Who hasn't?

[TheDemonLord]

https://www.americanpurpose.com/arti...YHAmz9VIZGA4wo
The war to this point has been a good lesson for China. Like Russia, China has built up seemingly high-tech military forces in the past decade, but they have no combat experience. The miserable performance of the Russian air force would likely be replicated by the People’s Liberation Army Air Force, which similarly has no experience managing complex air operations. We may hope that the Chinese leadership will not delude itself as to its own capabilities the way the Russians did when contemplating a future move against Taiwan.

I know I've quoted the whole post (interesting article, not all points I agree with, but interesting none-the-less) - however this line:

We may hope that the Chinese leadership will not delude itself as to its own capabilities the way the Russians did when contemplating a future move against Taiwan.

We've got no basis to hope that such is the case. How long do you think a Captain, Major, Colonel, General etc. is going to risk their career by telling the person above them something that will make them look bad?

That's without factoring things like Corruption into the mix.

[Pursang]

Imagine you are Putin for a moment, your proud Military, one of the mightiest in the world, has just been defeated by a Well Armed Militia using 40-50 year old tech, then the biggest Army in the world (by personnel count) decides to invade.

That presents Putin with an Existential crisis to the continued existence of Russia. And he'd have likely one response....

"Ядерное оружие"

If Putin's forces fail to take (and hold) Ukraine, Putin will have his own personal existential crisis.

He is a Mafia 'Don' supported by cronies all making billions by exploiting the Country.
(Where did all the military's money go? Certainly not into maintenance, support & training)
The loss of that cash-flow will not excuse a misguided attempt to recreate the USSR.
Actually, "absorbing" Ukraine was probably initially intended to prop up the already precarious Russian economy (by doubling the GDP)

A weakened Don will be "whacked" by someone with ambition and his own view of the future of the organisation.
This will not include nuclear annihilation!
There is also an external price on Putin's head, waiting for the right parties.

Cheers, Daryl.

[pritch]

Putin creatd a lot of comment with that photo of him at one end of a loooong table and his advisors clustered around the other end. Subsequently clips of Putin surounded by women appeared. These were suspected to be green screened, particularly when Putin's hand appears to pass though the microphone stand. The sharp eyed also noted that the reflection on the tea pot shows an empty room.

At his next appearance, when he was finished speaking, Zelenski just reached down and moved his microphone. Completely unnecessary, just throwing subtle shade.

[TheDemonLord]

If Putin's forces fail to take (and hold) Ukraine, Putin will have his own personal existential crisis.

He is a Mafia 'Don' supported by cronies all making billions by exploiting the Country.
(Where did all the military's money go? Certainly not into maintenance, support & training)
The loss of that cash-flow will not excuse a misguided attempt to recreate the USSR.
Actually, "absorbing" Ukraine was probably initially intended to prop up the already precarious Russian economy (by doubling the GDP)

A weakened Don will be "whacked" by someone with ambition and his own view of the future of the organisation.
This will not include nuclear annihilation!
There is also an external price on Putin's head, waiting for the right parties.

Cheers, Daryl.

I've heard that elsewhere as well - that the Oligarchs may end up turning on Putin. Which may (and I stress May very heavily) the preferred outcome. The thing that gives me some serious pause here is what sort of leader the person who could topple Putin would be.

I wouldn't place a bet on them being the Wise, Benevolent type...

[TheDemonLord]

Putin creatd a lot of comment with that photo of him at one end of a loooong table and his advisors clustered around the other end. Subsequently clips of Putin surounded by women appeared. These were suspected to be green screened, particularly when Putin's hand appears to pass though the microphone stand. The sharp eyed also noted that the reflection on the tea pot shows an empty room.

At his next appearance, when he was finished speaking, Zelenski just reached down and moved his microphone. Completely unnecessary, just throwing subtle shade.

That second image does look a bit suss, doesn't it?

Like the focus around Putins head and the contrast don't look quite right...

[husaberg]

If Putin's forces fail to take (and hold) Ukraine, Putin will have his own personal existential crisis.

He is a Mafia 'Don' supported by cronies all making billions by exploiting the Country.
(Where did all the military's money go? Certainly not into maintenance, support & training)
The loss of that cash-flow will not excuse a misguided attempt to recreate the USSR.
Actually, "absorbing" Ukraine was probably initially intended to prop up the already precarious Russian economy (by doubling the GDP)

A weakened Don will be "whacked" by someone with ambition and his own view of the future of the organisation.
This will not include nuclear annihilation!
There is also an external price on Putin's head, waiting for the right parties.

Cheers, Daryl.

As far as i know, Yeltsin chose Putin not because of any degree of political savvy or any leadership qualities or credentials Putin was chosen for the simple reason he would not go after Yeltsin or his family or endanger the oligarchy afterwards.
as long as Putin generously shares the spoils of war with his supporters he will remain "president for life"....

[pritch]

The stone age army I referred to had a better kill score. And they also beat the French.

Figured out THAT location yet .. ??

Ah yes. I do seem to recall something about that.

[sugilite:Me]

Ah yes. I do seem to recall something about that.

Let me of the hook, I figured they were talking about Afghanistan?

[FJRider]

... as long as Putin generously shares the spoils of war with his supporters he will remain "president for life"....

I would imagine a Drone with his name on it ... IS aloft over Europe as I post this. And with enough capability to reduce the area of his location to smoking rubble.


Life isn't always as long as some may think.

[pritch]

I would imagine a Drone with his name on it ... IS aloft over Europe as I post this. And with enough capability to reduce the area of his location to smoking rubble.

Life isn't always as long as some may think.

I'd love to see Putin gone along with a large chunk of Red Square. The Yanks are squeamish about attacking heads of state though. Probably in case someone tries to do it to them.

If they had the technology the Ukranians might not feel so constrained.

[husaberg]