Stupid World

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

What you really want is an AI that says, sure, I understand how your braking system works, but it's dumb, here's a much better one that I've designed for you.

Otherwise what's the point? There are already billions of biological intelligences on the planet that can potentially service your brakes.

Yes, but there are hundreds of millions of jobs that are behind a desk and a computer screen

When you develop technology that can do their job thousands of times faster and at a fraction of the cost, this will eventually trickle down to physical labor jobs financially at first anyway.

I try to look at things holistically or what will effect the overall outcome.

Example: What's the point of having a Harley Davidson dealership franchise owner, when Harley Davidson can replace the owner with AI

All Harley Davidson needs now is human meat to sign in and change the brakes, no administration, no parts department, no sales team.

Gone, replaced by AI.

[nerrrd]

Yes, but there are hundreds of millions of jobs that are behind a desk and a computer screen

When you develop technology that can do their job thousands of times faster and at a fraction of the cost, this will eventually trickle down to physical labor jobs financially at first anyway.

I try to look at things holistically or what will effect the overall outcome.

Example: What's the point of having a Harley Davidson dealership franchise owner, when Harley Davidson can replace the owner with AI

All Harley Davidson needs now is human meat to sign in and change the brakes, no administration, no parts department, no sales team.

Gone, replaced by AI.

You're assuming that the AI will be cheaper – after all the billions of dollars Elon and others have invested in it, I doubt they'll make it available to the commercial sector for nothing.

Plus why would Harley Davidson want the bother of maintaining all the dealer infrastructure (leases, rates, electricity, tools) that the dealer now covers for them?

And would the average buyer prefer the personal touch (assuming the dealer is a good one) or a bot?

I'm not saying that AI won't be able to do these things, I'm saying that in a lot of cases it won't be the obvious 'solution' you think it will.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Yes this true in regards to franchisee covering cost

I take my theory from Tesla, they don't use dealerships, you basically order a Tesla online to your requirements, then pick it up when it's ready.

They cut out the middle man

This drives down the cost of buying a Tesla, increasing market share against your competition Ford is starting something similar (which is upsetting franchise owners) so it just makes sense who can provide the best product at the lowest price

AI is very expensive now, but like smartphones, 60 inch TVs and EVs these all eventually come down in price as technology and manufacturing advances .

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

I'm not much of a mainstream media fan , but this popped up in my feed, obviously AI generated from what I've been posting on this thread.

Few interesting points but nothing I haven't already thought of

https://www.interest.co.nz/public-po...nce-artificial

[pete376403]

Yes this true in regards to franchisee covering cost

I take my theory from Tesla, they don't use dealerships, you basically order a Tesla online to your requirements, then pick it up when it's ready.

They cut out the middle man

This drives down the cost of buying a Tesla, increasing market share against your competition Ford is starting something similar (which is upsetting franchise owners) so it just makes sense who can provide the best product at the lowest price

AI is very expensive now, but like smartphones, 60 inch TVs and EVs these all eventually come down in price as technology and manufacturing advances .

If it is mechanical it will break, sooner or later. Without a dealership or other place of repair, are you suggesting tesla is throwaway technology?
Rich Rebuilds (look on youtube) details how he repairs teslas for a faction of what tesla themselves would charge eg "Tesla wanted $16,000 to fix this NEW Model 3, we did it for $700! The importance of Right to REPAIR!"
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVSw3KSevEc

[pritch]

Meanwhile back on earth...

The judge in her previous election denial law suit stated that he regretted he could not fine Ms Lake. The judge in her latest case was more creative. He has awarded costs against her. This is expected to come to between $500, 000 and $700,000. That might slow her appeal down.

Her legal team meanwhile spend their Christmas break wondering what their fines will be.

[R650R]

If it is mechanical it will break, sooner or later. Without a dealership or other place of repair, are you suggesting tesla is throwaway technology?
Rich Rebuilds (look on youtube) details how he repairs teslas for a faction of what tesla themselves would charge eg "Tesla wanted $16,000 to fix this NEW Model 3, we did it for $700! The importance of Right to REPAIR!"
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVSw3KSevEc

That dude is pretty cool, did he finish the v8 engine into Tesla chassis job?

[pritch]

Oh dear...

[SaferRides]

The share price is volatile, but it's certainly heading down at the moment.



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[mashman]

The share price is volatile, but it's certainly heading down at the moment.

lol@one man buying a social media platform affecting the car buying choice and share price of far too many. Kind of comical really.

[Hoonicorn]

lol@one man buying a social media platform affecting the car buying choice and share price of far too many. Kind of comical really.

more people are concerned about the reputation of tesla after the documentary about Autopilot and the idiots who crash using it.

but the sharp falls are hardly unique, take amazon that has lost over half its value since the start of the year. very little of the share price has to do with twitter, revenue is still strong so unless tesla has another big bad scandal or something better than battery cars arrives in the next few years, its probably a good investment when the share price bounces back (same for amazon).

[R650R]

Could be elong doing usual pump and dump..... or.....

A lot of bigger investors would have good contacts in trucking industry
“Hey Jimmy how manny of these Tesla semis you gonna buy?
None!!!! Why?????
Productivity, they can’t carry same load, I’ll need to hire more drivers, I can’t find drivers.
I can’t afford to instal substations at my depots to give the charger some enough juice
Sell
Sell
Sell

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Trust me guys, I've lost much more value in property portfolio than my Tesla stock, but I still own the stock, I'm adding more and for obvious reasons which I have posted on this thread, I'm a believer in the company long term.

I was even recently considering selling a property to buy more Tesla stock, but with the housing markets so dead, I thought otherwise.

I retired in my late 30s because I took risk, I'm happy if you choose to work into your 60s ,70s if you feel safer going that route.

Everyone is free to make financial decisions of their own, good or bad

As you are free to mock me as Tesla stock sells off.

All I ask is you revisit this thread in 12/24/36/ or 48 months to see how the company is doing.

[mashman]

more people are concerned about the reputation of tesla after the documentary about Autopilot and the idiots who crash using it.

but the sharp falls are hardly unique, take amazon that has lost over half its value since the start of the year. very little of the share price has to do with twitter, revenue is still strong so unless tesla has another big bad scandal or something better than battery cars arrives in the next few years, its probably a good investment when the share price bounces back (same for amazon).

I might see if I can find that for a watch... "idiots who crash using it" sold me... better be a fair review .

They've been reporting issues for a while, absolutely, so I get the lengthy fall to date. It's something that can be fixed with a software update, meanwhile you still have the car you were likely going to buy even without the FSD being a thing. Other manufacturers have been having issues with air bags deploying and brakes applying themselves when it's a WTF moment too (mine does that, but it's a petrol volvo from a decade ago), but not with the same result in share price (poor comparison in ways, absolutely). I get that the unlived up to hype is gonna cost, but the shift seems a little excessive for a feature that can be updated and switched off in the meantime. Maybe it's shit to drive... dunno.

[mashman]

Could be elong doing usual pump and dump..... or.....

A lot of bigger investors would have good contacts in trucking industry
“Hey Jimmy how manny of these Tesla semis you gonna buy?
None!!!! Why?????
Productivity, they can’t carry same load, I’ll need to hire more drivers, I can’t find drivers.
I can’t afford to instal substations at my depots to give the charger some enough juice
Sell
Sell
Sell

For sure. Yet it might be a better business option for others (making their current diesel stuff last longer by default etc...) v's risking legislation forcing the issue and then being at the bottom of a giant heap with nowhere to go but sell up as you're swallowed by those who do. Isn't that how progress usually goes?