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    After leaving his post as Secretary of Defense, JIm Mattis gave a speech where he is reported to have said "I won my spurs in combat, he won his in a doctors letter". You will recall that "bone spurs" were the reason Drumpf was unable to serve in Vietnam.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_sG7N7pJ6g

    Here's a clip. - here at 1.19
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    After leaving his post as Secretary of Defense, JIm Mattis gave a speech where he is reported to have said "I won my spurs in combat, he won his in a doctors letter". You will recall that "bone spurs" were the reason Drumpf was unable to serve in Vietnam.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_sG7N7pJ6g

    Here's a clip. - here at 1.19
    For anyone wanting to volunteer to fight in a similar guerilla warfare type battle there are currently ample vacancies in Ukraine and Israel. Not sure when next flight leaves.
    The fad of young lefties posting pics on Twitter of “our last meal at restaurant before we go to fight Russia” seems to have faded now it’s evident it’s a real war that’s definitely not over before your flight lands.

    Hey I just noticed since the next election is about to start Trump still isn’t in jail yet and still has t been convicted of anything substantial despite “mounting evidence” of this and “ clear indications of that…

    Could it be that it’s just a pointless sideshow to distract us while our real freedom is quietly dismantled in background (petroleum powered cars/trucks/bikes)
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    Further to my earlier comment about the Trump defamation case being delayed due to Ms Habba's claimed exposure to COVID and her saying she felt unwell. Also potentially because of Trump's exposure to her. Ms Habba has now been photographed out on the campaign trail with Trump neither are masked and Trump is pressing the flesh with all and sundry.

    Trump has no defence to most of the 91 charges he faces so his primary tactic is simply delay, delay, delay. The question has now been asked, did Ms Habba lie to a federal court judge?

    The case is scheduled to resume Thursday US time. Meanwhile Trump continues to post defamatory statements on his social media platform. All of which are being recorded by EJC's lawyers and are being communicated to the judge, who will no doubt in due course convey them to the jury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post

    Hey I just noticed since the next election is about to start Trump still isn’t in jail yet and still has t been convicted of anything substantial despite “mounting evidence” of this and “ clear indications of that…

    Could it be that it’s just a pointless sideshow to distract us while our real freedom is quietly dismantled in background (petroleum powered cars/trucks/bikes)
    Because trump has had 100's of court cases experience and as such is the master of delay, the prosecutors want to get it done as fast as the glacial usa court systems will allow.
    Trump is definitely a criminal. TDL used to say trump only started having all these crimes levied against him after announcing his run for presidency while rather conveniently forgetting trump university was found to be fraudulent well before 2016 and is one of the few cases trump admitted such and settled the case sweeping it under the carpet for his presidential run.
    So R650, if you give the a confirmed fraudster the keys to the most powerful job in the World, do you really think the fraudster is going to turn over a new leaf and become an honest man, or scam the fuck out of the system to line his pockets with ill gotten gains? Serious question.

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    Some of the commentators I come acrsoss are expressing concern at the simple minded coverage of most newspaper and TV pundits. Some of this may be as was expressed by Paul Simon, "A man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest." Some is likely just ignorance. Some will just be chasing clicks.

    Trump won the New Hampshire over Nikki Hayley by 11%.
    According to who you are watching or listening to:
    This was a major Trump Victory.
    This was a major loss for Hayley
    An 11% margin is underwhelming in the circumstances.
    Independents did not vote for Trump.

    It's going to be a long haul from here to November...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Because trump has had 100's of court cases experience and as such is the master of delay, the prosecutors want to get it done as fast as the glacial usa court systems will allow.
    Trump is definitely a criminal. TDL used to say trump only started having all these crimes levied against him after announcing his run for presidency while rather conveniently forgetting trump university was found to be fraudulent well before 2016 and is one of the few cases trump admitted such and settled the case sweeping it under the carpet for his presidential run.
    So R650, if you give the a confirmed fraudster the keys to the most powerful job in the World, do you really think the fraudster is going to turn over a new leaf and become an honest man, or scam the fuck out of the system to line his pockets with ill gotten gains? Serious question.
    We have ample evidence of politicians lying across the whole political spectrum worldwide, so much you’d think it was on the job description.
    Trump is a brand, his greatest riches will come from making America great again much more than any baubles of office or shady deals.
    Did he defraud the American people out of anything in his four year term. ????
    I’d say most CEO and big business owners sail pretty close to the wind when it comes to bending rules for profit it’s part of doing business in modern world. It’s not quite like he’s an Amalda Marcos with 2000 pairs of shoes on the tab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Trump is a brand, his greatest riches will come from making America great again much more than any baubles of office or shady deals.
    Trump is a massive egotist who can't accept that he lost as demonstrated by his ongoing claims that the election was stolen, because previously in his life when he fucked up other people had vested interests to protect so dug him out of the shit to save themselves.

    In this case he got elected, demonstrated that he was completely ineffective, and was dumped. Most people would gracefully Homer into the hedge, but he won't because his personality disorders won't let him accept the fact that he was no longer wanted.

    It is true that he is a brand that people will blindly follow to the point of dismissing reality, it's a disturbing commentary on America that he's the best that the republicans can come up with as a candidate, and equally disturbing that the best the democrats can put up against him is Biden. One day they might catch up with the progress the rest of the world has made, and elect someone actually relevant and competent as their president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post

    Should fall under banner of: not my country, not my problem.
    But they are still the most powerful democracy, so they need to have their head screwed on right.
    If trump takes America 'down his garden path' prepare to be 'Grabbed by the Pussy'. The World and our personal lives will not change for the better.

    Besides dumping NATO, Ukraine and Europe to the ravages of a dementedly marauding pootin. (In exchange for 'Trump' branded Towers in Moscow & Saint Petersburg),
    trump will allow just about any concession to Xi for trump branded hotels in Beijing, Hong Kong, etc.

    Screw Japan, Philippines, South Korea, China will take control of the South China Sea. Shipping traffic through this zone will require payment of a "Security and safety Levy"

    As an Aussie , our prosperity relies on shipments of coal, gas & iron ore, in exchange for cheap crap! the profitability and viability of that trade will be dependent on Xi's levy.

    If we object, there will no longer be a united international resistance to Xina coming and taking control of whatever they want. Just blocking Fuel shipments from Singapore will shut us down in about a Month.

    If trump is allowed to win....we Will be assaulted and raped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pursang View Post
    If trump takes America 'down his garden path' prepare to be 'Grabbed by the Pussy'. The World and our personal lives will not change for the better.

    Besides dumping NATO, Ukraine and Europe to the ravages of a dementedly marauding pootin. (In exchange for 'Trump' branded Towers in Moscow & Saint Petersburg),
    trump will allow just about any concession to Xi for trump branded hotels in Beijing, Hong Kong, etc.

    Screw Japan, Philippines, South Korea, China will take control of the South China Sea. Shipping traffic through this zone will require payment of a "Security and safety Levy"

    As an Aussie , our prosperity relies on shipments of coal, gas & iron ore, in exchange for cheap crap! the profitability and viability of that trade will be dependent on Xi's levy.

    If we object, there will no longer be a united international resistance to Xina coming and taking control of whatever they want. Just blocking Fuel shipments from Singapore will shut us down in about a Month.

    If trump is allowed to win....we Will be assaulted and raped.
    Dumping NATO would bring greatest peace to the world and save America billions of dollars. All the great world wars were triggered by other countries having to join in on small conflicts due to treaty obligations.
    The whole reason we are on the verge of WWIII right now is because USA wanted to base weapon systems in Ukraine on Russia’s border, just like how America got upset at the Cuba middle crisis.
    Trump destroyed ISIS and got North Korea to pull its head in.
    Russia and China are all about doing business, they are not expansionist colonial powers.They are watching America replicate the Roman folly of overextending oneself with expensive military bases fitted around the world while millions flood their unprotected borders.
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    It's reported from multiple sources including Mitt Romney and Mitch McConnell (just so we are not quoting unnamed sources) that Trump has instructed the Republicans to do nothing to solve the problems at the border so that he can use the issue to attack Biden.

    The Republicans are quite happily selling Ukraine out to Putin by continuing to block funding.

    There is some bright news though. Trump White House official Peter Navarro who assisted with the plot to keep Trump in power and even wrote of his plan for a "Green Bay Sweep." He who was outraged when he was actually put in cuffs when arrested, has been sentenced to four months in the big house for ignoring a congressional subpoena to give evidence to the Jan 6 Inquiry.

    Navarro speaks outdoors when he gives press conferences and the first time there was a heroic lone woman standing right behind him with a placard saying something like "lock him up." Next time she also had a referees whistle which made his life difficult. This time she had support, another woman with signs and there was someone with a cowbell. Ah well, at least there'll be no whistles or cow bells in prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    has been sentenced to four years in the big house for ignoring a congressional subpoena to give evidence to the Jan 6 Inquiry.
    That's four Months, not Years.

    Unlucky for him if actually serves any of it, what with parole, time of for good behaviour, etc etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim.cox View Post
    That's four Months, not Years.

    Unlucky for him if actually serves any of it, what with parole, time of for good behaviour, etc etc
    You are right of course. My sense of schadenfreude overwhelmed me.

    He will appeal of course - if he has enough money left. He was whinging about his financial state. I don't know how much time they get off for good behaviour in the US. In the corporate owned prisons it can be difficult to get the time off. The prisoners are inventory and the company needs to keep them there. An empty prison is a financial disaster to them and in the past they have asked for more people to be imprisoned.

    In other news, Shawn Fein (how's that for an interesting name?) of the United Auto Workers Union has made an angry speech during which he called Trump a scab and announced the Union is endorsing Biden. This goes back to when the union was on strike. Biden visited a car plant. Trump visited a non-union component manufacturer but pretended he was at a union shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Trump destroyed ISIS and got North Korea to pull its head in.
    Just to pull One False Claim from that smelly pile.

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    https://www.nti.org/analysis/article...test-database/

    By my count:
    1985-2015 Pre-trump.........55 missile launches
    2016-2019 trump years......71 missile launches
    2020-2024 Post-trump.......99 missile launches

    So trump sure got his 'Little Rocket Man' to pull his head in!

    'MAGA brains' will then exclaim... that trumps numbers are so much, way, better than Bidens. FFS!

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