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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    I genuinely hope you never have a relative that does something crazy completely independent of any influence you had on them, only to have callous ignorants blame you. It is not nice.

    Yeah, yeah, covid is just the flu, a dude jumped out of a plane without a parachute and died of covid on impact. Equally stupid, the "clot shot" gang assigning every death they read about as vaccine based. The dead people stacked into refrigerated containers in rats nest like New York in the early days suggest, that somewhere in the middle lies balance. Did the left overdo the nanny state antics? Absofuckinglutely. Did the right do their usual don't give a fuck about an age demographic that was passed it's useful taxpayer status? Again, Absofuckinglutely.

    It was a big deal for me to actually take the first 2 shots as up to then, I had avoided all vaccines, even the one all 14 year olds got at school back in the 80's. It was unfortunately the 3 pre existing conditions I had that made my mind up, based on the best information I could find at the time, and a bit of family pressure to be honest. I personally, noticed bugger all difference, however, shot one really messed with my wife's respiratory system. Neither of us have had subsequent shots as the covid virus seemed to evolve into a weaker beast. Each person had to make their own personal decisions on it. It did not have to be one based on fucking politics like BOTH sides made it.

    What is happening in American politics (and associated propaganda "news" networks) is fucking unbelievable, I have no idea how criminal trump got his super power of people believing he has their best interests at heart and is a stand up guy. Even he acknowledged it in 2016 by saying he could shoot someone in central park and people would still vote for him. The left have not changed fuck all, they still want to use everyone else's money to fix their vision of what ails the World, but the right under trump? My god man, now they embrace russia! The man has corrupted the GOP's soul at the deepest levels. The joke is he calls any republican that does not agree with him a rino, when it is in fact him, and his disciples that are the true rinos.

    As messed up as the compromised democracy in the usa was, we (countries like New Zealand) really needed the until now - enduring balance of the moderates both left and right cancelling out the worst excesses of their respective radical sides from having too much sway. Trump has murdered that balance. Comparing him to hitler, stalin or mususilini is wrong, he is his own special kind of individual to be sure. But equally as dangerous. To even talk about dissolving nato with what putin is up to, and another certain red colored powerhouse country waiting in the wings to swoop in and mop up the mess and fully take over - where does that leave the likes of resource rich desirable Australia and popgun NZ just next door with a severely weakened America at war with itself? The fact that it is largely at war because of a loudmouthed conman is just so very, very disappointing.

    Really with the corruption in politics, it matters little whether the left or right are in "power". I lived 2 years in the USA during trumps presidency. When we left NZ it was national in charge, when we got back, it was labor and as usual, sweet fuck all had significantly changed, especially as labor was the government of getting sweet fuck all done. (I'm far from loving everything the nats are doing either) However on the grand scale of being able to live ones life with even a cursory nod to freedom is more fucking important than which imaginary ideal corrupt piece of shit party is in charge. Debating which side has the best take on governing is about as applicable as speculating if either santa or the easter bunny will improve your life. (naturally, it's santa, he gives a wider range of presents).


    Ohh sorry brother sugilite, sounds like you've had a family member do something bad, wouldn't blame you bud. I understand

    Brother, I would like to see you publish all of this into a book. My mate runs penguin books I'll put in a good word

    Love your passion pal

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    Quote Originally Posted by nerrrd View Post
    While I think President Trump is likely to win, I don't think it's going to be smooth sailing for his Presidency.

    For a start, they've all made their money from globalisation, but they're campaigning on a platform of isolationism and protectionism.

    As soon as that starts hitting them and their donors in the pocket, it's history. Just look at the Democrats and how they've had to sacrifice their traditional support for workers' rights over the years because the corporations won't stand for it.

    Short of some crisis that upends the world economy altogether, it won't stand.


    Hey Brutha,

    Love your raw honesty and common sense. Trump will win, yes it will be rocky. I believe he has the back bone to get through this and put the USA back on track. Time will tell.

    Ohh you are from Auckland! Bloody hell! That's why you have common sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean View Post
    Whether you like him or not, Trump is going to be president 2024.

    And deep down you know it too.

    So, I recommend to start getting used to it.

    Maybe hang out with us republicans and see what we’re all about.
    Get to know us better.

    TRUMP 2024 baby.


    Hey mate, couldnt of said it better myself. Wait till election day. We will look back at this, bud light in hand and have a good old chuckle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1/32 man View Post
    I have heard biden speak in a statesmanly like way....trump on the other hand will ramble and rant. Hearing his latest speech, trump delivered the most monotone, broken delivery that it was painful.
    BUDDY! you have got to be absolutely kidding! Do you genuinely believe this? I tell you what I have never seen such a fitting name as yours. You are absolutely correct! As a lefty snow flake you are 1 / 32 of a man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kb2020dope View Post
    BUDDY! you have got to be absolutely kidding! Do you genuinely believe this? I tell you what I have never seen such a fitting name as yours. You are absolutely correct! As a lefty snow flake you are 1 / 32 of a man!
    Nope, he was right. Not that Biden is suitable but Trump? FFS any kiwi supporting that fucking clown should be castrated. For reals.
    Only a Rat can win a Rat Race!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laava View Post
    Nope, he was right. Not that Biden is suitable but Trump? FFS any kiwi supporting that fucking clown should be castrated. For reals.
    Hey brother laava,

    I'm not sure of your knowledge on American politics. I believe the comment that was made shows he is supportive of Biden. Biden is left wing. Therefore he is not right, he is left.

    That's an interesting take. Unfortunately new Zealand has an aging population and we need to reproduce. Lefty snowflakes 'males' across new Zealand are transitioning into cats, women, they's and them's. We need strong kiwi males to reproduce and rebuild our reputation on the world stage.

    This is just my opinion and please do not be offended. I'm also sorry for not asking what your pronouns are. All the best on your journey and if you need tampons or kitty litter please do not hesitate to private message me and ask for help. I am right leaning but I am not heartless and happy to help out all communities.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kb2020dope View Post
    Hey brother laava,

    I'm not sure of your knowledge on American politics. I believe the comment that was made shows he is supportive of Biden. Biden is left wing. Therefore he is not right, he is left.

    That's an interesting take. Unfortunately new Zealand has an aging population and we need to reproduce. Lefty snowflakes 'males' across new Zealand are transitioning into cats, women, they's and them's. We need strong kiwi males to reproduce and rebuild our reputation on the world stage.

    This is just my opinion and please do not be offended. I'm also sorry for not asking what your pronouns are. All the best on your journey and if you need tampons or kitty litter please do not hesitate to private message me and ask for help. I am right leaning but I am not heartless and happy to help out all communities.

    Thanks
    Dude, you need to stop embarrassing yourself on here and go and ride your antique styles tricycle.
    instead of trying to impress with your online alpha male pretence
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laava View Post
    Dude, you need to stop embarrassing yourself on here and go and ride your antique styles tricycle.
    instead of trying to impress with your online alpha male pretence
    I don't feel embarrassed... yes my main ride is a trike , I also have a 2016 Gsx. I often take the trike out as I can take my mate (who can no longer ride). I was brought up in a strong right leaning household. I was taught life is war and you never leave mates alone in the trenches of life. When my mate had a serious accident it was gods will that I had just comeback from touring route 66 and imported my trike back home.

    Please let me know why I should be embarrassed.
    It's not just online bud, but I will take your compliments.

    Thanks, brother laava

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kb2020dope View Post
    Ohh sorry brother sugilite, sounds like you've had a family member do something bad, wouldn't blame you bud. I understand

    Brother, I would like to see you publish all of this into a book. My mate runs penguin books I'll put in a good word

    Love your passion pal
    Haha, brilliant! But for once not me! Though I prob lost ya after the first paragraph huh?
    So now it is out and the parents have been identified as gun toten strong maga, the father rang the cops with his concerns on the day, and turns out the young guy was equal opportunity type and only went for trump before biden because his rally turned up for him first - do you still want the guys family to suffer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kb2020dope View Post

    Hey mate, couldnt of said it better myself. Wait till election day. We will look back at this, bud light in hand and have a good old chuckle.
    Love it when you guys start talking red wave, magas have the best bedtime stories

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kb2020dope View Post
    Hey brother laava,

    I'm not sure of your knowledge on American politics. I believe the comment that was made shows he is supportive of Biden. Biden is left wing. Therefore he is not right, he is left.



    Thanks
    Interesting. You've just exposed your lack of knowledge of politics generally. The US does not have a left. By world standards - and even by NZ standards - the Democrats are center right.
    Look at the soulmates who holidayed together - Obama and Key.
    What the US has is as I said a center right party - and a far right party. Which is going even further right.

    I'm on a couple of US forums and being your average Kiwi center left Labour voter, I'm the closest to their version of a Communist they're ever going to talk to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Haha, brilliant! But for once not me! Though I prob lost ya after the first paragraph huh?
    So now it is out and the parents have been identified as gun toten strong maga, the father rang the cops with his concerns on the day, and turns out the young guy was equal opportunity type and only went for trump before biden because his rally turned up for him first - do you still want the guys family to suffer?


    Love it when you guys start talking red wave, magas have the best bedtime stories

    Buddy, what I would like you to do moving forward is condense your point into an organised response. Thanks in advance.

    Now, I did not know this and will look into this. The father sounds like a reasonable human. I would like send my condolences for his loss..BUT, I believe deep down he knows that the right thing was done. I will admit that he does not sound like a failure as a role model and father. He was just unlucky.

    Please reply with your thoughts in an organised manner.

    Thanks

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    With all due respect, below I’m going to show you how to effectively articulate a response without publishing a novel.

    Interesting, I follow both sides propaganda "news"networks (Hilarious both sides think they are being shown the "truth"), during God faring trumps porked a pornstar while wifey at home with baby trial, and his team called one single witness. The judge ended up clearing the court and telling off the witness, who is a vastly experienced lawyer.
    You follow both? Baseless statement, no evidence, “I follow both too” = moot point.

    Judges clear courts and give warnings all the time. Emotions are high, tense environments. Has happened, will always happen.

    The way the right wing media reported, they were totally shocked and had never seen anything like it, it was completely a disgraceful way for a witness to be treated! The little detail ALL right wing media missed reporting? The clown was shouting out things like "Strike That" when prosecutions lawyers said things he did not like. Now keep in mind that the witness is a vastly experienced lawyer - only Judges get to say "strike that". Not obstinate performative clowns bought in for the sole purpose of creating disruption to feed the right wing followers. And that is just one single point the right wing media "forgot to report" lol.
    Was said lawyer given formal infractions due to said conduct? No, did the trial continue? Yes. Is this normal of a significant court proceeding? Yes.

    Entirely subjective as to one’s interpretation of the proceedings and how it went.

    I note no sources are provided supporting said right media articles.

    Mate, with just a modicum of research outside the echo chambers that are the right and left wing propaganda networks, Gods truth can be found. If you want to be treated like a dummy too lazy to look about for some balanced reporting, that's fine, just don't expect a "atta boy" from others on the forum that have actually taken the time to actually do a little digging.
    Too emotive and fluffy - I’ll rewrite that for you in one sentence:
    “You should do your research, mate”.

    Oh yes, definitely agreed, the DNC are very, very stupid.
    I rest my case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Interesting. You've just exposed your lack of knowledge of politics generally. The US does not have a left. By world standards - and even by NZ standards - the Democrats are center right.
    Look at the soulmates who holidayed together - Obama and Key.
    What the US has is as I said a center right party - and a far right party. Which is going even further right.

    I'm on a couple of US forums and being your average Kiwi center left Labour voter, I'm the closest to their version of a Communist they're ever going to talk to.


    Hi Grumph,

    Do you seriously not believe the United States of America has a left option? I know Biden has one foot in the grave but if he lasts till election they can still vote for him.

    The new zealand national party and Labour party are both centre. Labour is centre left and national is centre right.

    Key and Obama are great mates. I have had friends in rival rugby teams, one of my great friends runs a rival company. It happens sometimes you can get a great connection with different views. Hey Grumph, if we play our cards right that could be us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kb2020dope View Post
    Buddy, what I would like you to do moving forward is condense your point into an organised response. Thanks in advance.

    Now, I did not know this and will look into this. The father sounds like a reasonable human. I would like send my condolences for his loss..BUT, I believe deep down he knows that the right thing was done. I will admit that he does not sound like a failure as a role model and father. He was just unlucky.
    Yeah, because he is team maga, suddenly Dad sounds like a stand up guy and may even deserve condolences. And he does imo, I just don't judge people solely on their political leanings. Good and bad people on both sides eh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dean View Post
    With all due respect, below I’m going to show you how to effectively articulate a response without publishing a novel.
    Or follow any of your own advice and give sources - but please do go on.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dean View Post
    You follow both? Baseless statement, no evidence, “I follow both too” = moot point.
    Would you like me to post a photo of me reading from both propaganda networks? Please do continue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dean View Post
    Judges clear courts and give warnings all the time. Emotions are high, tense environments. Has happened, will always happen.
    So far so good, do go on sir.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dean View Post
    Was said lawyer given formal infractions due to said conduct? No, did the trial continue? Yes. Is this normal of a significant court proceeding? Yes.
    Opps, a bit off base there sport, as I mentioned, and you seem to acknowledge, he is a lawyer, but where you fell down was he was there in there in capacity as a witness, so unlikely to be given a lawyerly infraction

    Quote Originally Posted by Dean View Post
    Entirely subjective as to one’s interpretation of the proceedings and how it went. I note no sources are provided supporting said right media articles.
    Ok, sources and words from the transcript. I've taken the liberty to post in a relevant paragraph as I know you struggle with inconveniently long prose. (Also known as facts, a rare thing in magaland eh Dean.)

    "But the most tense moments happened with Costello on the witness stand. Merchan first sent the jury out of the courtroom to discuss proper decorum. He chided Costello for remarking “jeez” when he was cut off by a sustained objection and, at another point, “strike it.” Merchan told him: “I’m the only one that can strike testimony in the courtroom. Do you understand that?”
    https://apnews.com/article/trump-tri...31b1392f42689d

    Here is a Fox news report on that same testomony, notice anything missing Dean?
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...erial-liar.amp

    Quote Originally Posted by Dean View Post
    Too emotive and fluffy - I’ll rewrite that for you in one sentence:
    “You should do your research, mate”.
    Perhaps follow your own advice Dean? Because right now your looking like a textbook motomouthmaga with no substance and a propensity for shameless hypocrisy.

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    [QUOTE=sugilite;1131226883]Yeah, because he is team maga, suddenly Dad sounds like a stand up guy and may even deserve condolences. And he does imo, I just don't judge people solely on their political leanings. Good and bad people on both sides eh.


    Hi, brother sugilite.

    Yes this is correct. He has common sense. Congratulations on seeing the light and agreeing that he deserves condolences. Thankyou for taking my advice and getting your point across swiftly. I am proud of you and I'm happy to agree to disagree on the bigger issue.

    I hope you are happy with this my buddy.

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