Probably do a better job than the Maga crowd who have swapped ear bandages to wearing safety vests for Trump's latest rallyOriginally Posted by TheDemonLord
Some of whom are so fricking thick they dont even know how to put one on...
Bevelhead Dinosaur
Probably do a better job than the Maga crowd who have swapped ear bandages to wearing safety vests for Trump's latest rally
Some of whom are so fricking thick they dont even know how to put one on...
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Geriatric hoon
And the grift goes on. Trump is suing CBS for ten billion over their Harris interview. Only ten billion? At least he has found a judge he appointed but even so...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-s...tes-interview/
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
The Majestic Metal Wizard
Was speaking to one of the Gym regulars today - they are fresh back from California (a heavily Democrat state) - and what was interesting was that they said this:
I have never seen so many Trump supporters ever
(and then began to articulare how this was different from the previous times he had visited the states)
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Bevelhead Dinosaur
"Aint No Limit To Dumb" as they say on the Internerd
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Hardcore Biker
Looking forward to next Wednesday - let’s hope it is a fair election.
You can bet I will be celebrating for Trumps victory.
Keeping Trump in my prayers for this election.
https://youtu.be/-KoXt9pZLGM?si=gTf2ioa_nR5l_G1l
Anorak
You really have to laugh.
The suit calls for a jury trial and $10 billion in damages, claiming CBS’s action violates the Lone Star State’s prohibition of deceptive acts in the conduct of business.
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
Hardcore Biker
Yes particularly in the last few weeks we have been getting an influx in Trump support.
Or should we say an influx in common sense.
I have a mate who lives there now - same deal.
The current odds on the election are showing Trump to win.
Forum whore
I imagine it will be, it's not like it is the third world or something.
Unfortunately, the impression I have is that if Trump does not win then he will say it wasn't a fair election and there were all kinds of dodgy deals going on and some of his more rabid followers will go on a rampage as was done last time and who knows where it will end. If the other party doesn't win they will accept the result.
Hardcore Biker
You'll never win an argument with a cult follower. The Brain washed Fox 'News' Cult. So, I won't even attempt it.
He may well win the election and, heaven help the world if he does.
George Orwell would be turning over in his grave . The 'Dystopian future of a society bereft of reason' That's what Trump is aiming for. And, his idiots are agreeing with him. The orange face painted idiot.
The Trump cult must be proud of themselves. Keep listening to Fox guys, you are obviously unable to make your own decisions.
The ultimate sign of weakness is someone who needs someone like 'Captain Bone Spurs' to make the call for you. He's your champion.
He said he's got the biggest brain in the world. Give me a break. Look after your champion Trump followers. He's the guy that never tells lies remember. You must be proud of him Dean and his orange painted face.
What a Man you must be too. Uncle Donald will look after you mate. Like all the others who can't think for themselves. That's the true sign of weakness.
Geriatric hoon
As well as twenty eight credible accusations of sexual assault against him Trump is an adjudicated rapist. The mental contortions Trump supporters perform in support of their hero are amazing. To refresh whatever is left of their memory, here is Trump confessing to the very crimes they refuse to believe he committed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVKukVC_S5g
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
Kiwibiker
While I'm sure you sincerely believe that, and I'm sure you once were - to my eyes, your writings without a shadow of a doubt show you to be a trump maga right wing cultist. Just in this latest exchange you are absolutely steadfastly ignoring Thomas corruptly accepting MANY bribes and trying desperately to paint him as non corrupt due to how YOU consider he ruled. Taking bribes is abject corruption and I have no doubt an actual practising libertarian with their principles still intact would agree. Billionaires do Not give away millions without an expectation of a return on their "investment".
You clearly have lost your way under the weirdly powerful charisma of trump. I sincerely hope you make it out the cult one day.
The Majestic Metal Wizard
I asked for a single instance, in 30+ years, of Clarence ruling against the Constitution in favor of his doners. Not a very high threshold of evidence by any standard. It is conspicous by its abscence.
But let us come back to the right wing cultist element - because I think this is important - there are many issues in which I am not on the traditional right - Drug legalization (for example) - I don't think the Government should regulate what I put in my body - pretty stock Libertarian position.
I can list a myriad of other positions - but I don't think that is the interesting issue. I think that your dislike of Trump (which you are more than entitled to have) is making you blind to the largess of the Left Wing (Ironically, in much the same way that you accuse me of being blind) - but I want to expand on why I think the issue is on the Left side and not the right side:
Let us presume you and I are having a discussion over a Pint (which BTW - we absolutely need to do again) - and let us assume the topic is Taxation and Tax Policy.
I am going to presume your position - I am not saying this is what you believe (for the sake the point I am eventually going to make):
You say: We need to increase tax on the Wealthiest, because we have various important national projects that need to be done and we need to pay for them.
I say: I think we should decrease tax on the Wealthiest, because most of their wealth is not in liquid or taxable assets and if you do that, they will move their money off shore.
And we back and forth about all the surrounding issues - Government wastage, investment etc.
We can have that debate - because fundamentally we agree on the Principles:
- To live in a modern society requires a degree of Taxation
- there are things that the Government does that are public goods
etc.
This is, to my mind, the classic Left-Right dichotomy that existed up until about the mid 2000s. I believe the reason(s) for that have to do with the fall of the Berlin wall in the 90s and the time it took for various ideas to become socially acceptable again.
So let me now re-run this hypothetical debate with someone else, a Modern Left Winger (and I am going to use actual quotes here):
I say: I think we should decrease tax on the Wealthiest, because most of their wealth is not in liquid or taxable assets and if you do that, they will move their money off shore.
They say: Billionaires are immoral, we should kill them all and take their money. Once you reach 999 Million, that's it, every dollar over that is taxed 100% and you get a little trophy that says congrats you won at Capitalism.
Can you have a meaningful debate here? We do not even agree on the basic fundamentals that underpin the terms of the debate.
I am sure you will counter that this is a somewhat fringe view on the Left and that the majority of Democrat voters do not believe this - fair enough - but here is the issue: You have a minority - lets say 20% of Left Wing voters (Democrat, Labour etc.) who are like this. Their end goal is explicitly to end Capitalism. They then propose to the 80% of Left Wing Voters a policy that sounds reasonable, but furthers their end goal (case in point - look at the UK under Keir Stalin and the most recent budget).
I can hear your retort that this is hyperbole and I am reaching - so let me give a pretty solid example: The Defund the Police Movement.
Furthers the goal of the radicals by destabilizing society and undermining a key social institution, leading to higher unrest and more revolutionary feeling. And before you say I am reaching - here is them spelling it out.
Sounds reasonable to a moderate when you couch the policy in terms of 'redirecting resources away from front line policing and into social and preventative programs to stop the problems from occuring in the first place'
What should have happened is the 80% should have told the 20% that this is an absolutely crazy idea and to shut up - but they didn't - I again will raise the quote of JBP - When does the Left go too far?
If the left were to carve out and reject that radical 20%, for starters you would not see the rise of a Trump-like figure, because there would be no need. We could argue about all manner of policy positions, but from the same philosophical foundation: Our Country is good, we need public services, they have to be paid for, but we want to make sure we are being prudent with our tax dollars.
But since the left embraces its radical element, well - you get Trump. Just like Newton said - for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Kiwibiker
I do not care if thomas has the ability to sweep the floor with a broom jammed in his arse while making rulings on points of constitutional law. the FACT he takes bribes for me disqualifies him instantly on grounds of being an immoral character. Let us for one moment imagine you are in charge of interviewing the next supreme court judge and he/she opens the interview with "You should know I take bribes, lots and lots of them". The interview would end right there yes? So because for me he is disqualified, i would rather watch a trump rally than read one of your walls if i was stupid enough to fall for your lets argue/debate a ruling that I may of felt thomas had made that was dodgy. Under my ethics guide both thomas and Sotomayor would be gone and 3 others on very thin ice.
As i have mentioned tiresomely often the dems have their radical elements largely under control, but the right have put their lunatics in charge of the asylum. That is the reason I do not have much focus on the left at this point in time.
This is a very good point, because here you are finally acknowledging that your full throat support of trump is by your own definition supporting the radical right. You may be one of the few fascist libertarians the world has seen.
Re: Catch up for a beer - just after the election sound good?
The Majestic Metal Wizard
Whether it is a Bribe, is contingent on whether or not there is any action taken.
Here is my position - Imagine a First Amendment case, someone is saying mean things about one of Clarences buddies - the case ends up before the SC and Clarence rules against the First Amendment, in favor of his patrons.
At that moment, I will be fully on-board with your argument. I will agree he was Bribed, that he is corrupt and that he is unfit to hold office.
Absent that scenario - looking at nearly 30 years of opinion, especially on major cases - I cannot find an instance where he has gone against the Constitution.
If you say it looks bad and it has bad optics - I can see and respect that viewpoint. But for me to move from bad optics to corrupt - I am going to need a ruling against the constitution.
Jan 6th riots = $1.5 Million worth of damage (estimated)
BLM riots = $2 Billion worth of damage (estimated)
By what metric do you think it is largely under control?
Again, I point to Defund the Police - a Left Wing that had its radicals under control would not have advocated for this policy. Biological Men in Womens Sports. Failing to police the Border.
The list goes on.
Can you show me an equivalent fringe Right Wing Policy that was implemented at a National level?
Some examples could be to get rid of the ATF or the Department of Education.
What Radical Right?
I think I asked the question to either yourself or Pritch a while ago - Consider Project 2025 or any other supposed radical or far-right Agenda: Assuming everything comes to pass, as the authors of these policies hope - what is the outcome?
And then I want to compare it to the radicals on the Left - if everything that they seek to do, what comes to pass?
To be clear - I am not saying that there is not a radical right - I am saying that the actual radical right is barely non-existent and has no institutional sway or influence.
Yes, there are edgy internet teens who tell spicy jokes to get a reaction, but they are not a serious political block.
Absolutely!
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Scooter boy
I'm keeping my schedule free for Wednesday afternoon and Thursday (recovery) shoot over to mine Wednesday afternoon. I'll be celebrating trumps victory in style with a nice wagyu brisket and a nice bottle of EH Taylor single barrel, plenty to go around.
Smooth as Tennessee whiskey.
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