Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[pritch]

What I would like you to do is broaden your horizons and challenge yourself .

May I respectfully suggest you take your own advice?

[pritch]

Random thought: Y'all will be aware that Trump was found guilty of 34 felonies. it's just possible that you forgot he hasn't been sentenced yet. That number of felonies should guarantee prison. Well, we don't have that long to wait sentencing is set for 26 November. If Trump loses the election he should go to prison. If he wins he could still go to prison. How dumb are people who would vote for a president who would have to preside from prison?

[jellywrestler]

how dumb are people who would vote for a president who would have to preside from prison?

would he be able to do that from inside?

[pete376403]

Random thought: Y'all will be aware that Trump was found guilty of 34 felonies. it's just possible that you forgot he hasn't been sentenced yet. That number of felonies should guarantee prison. Well, we don't have that long to wait sentencing is set for 26 November. If Trump loses the election he should go to prison. If he wins he could still go to prison. How dumb are people who would vote for a president who would have to preside from prison?

Pretty much guaranteed that he would pardon himself for the federal crimes, dont know how it would play with the state crimes

[pete376403]

would he be able to do that from inside?

Capone ran his empire from Alcatraz

[Grumph]

would he be able to do that from inside?

Been reported that the secret service who provide protection have been working out how to do it.

I suspect it would involve a lot of zoom calls - and a secure courier for documents.

If of course, he wins.

[Grumph]

Pretty much guaranteed that he would pardon himself for the federal crimes, dont know how it would play with the state crimes

Most are state level - for which he can't pardon himself.

Which is why in almost every case he's tried to get it to the Supreme Court and thus Federal level.

[pritch]

Most are state level - for which he can't pardon himself.

Which is why in almost every case he's tried to get it to the Supreme Court and thus Federal level.

True, Trump could pardon himself for federal crimes but not state crimes like his 34 convictions for fraud in New York. On Day One of a Tump presidency we can assume he would dismiss prosecutor Jack Smith and all his federal problems would go away. If Trump loses Smith will be going hard after the documents case which is potentally the most serious. Ignore the talk about whether the documents were classified or not, that's irrelevant. Trump would be facing espionage charges. Which is why he is running. He isn't running to be President. He's running to stay out of prison.

[husaberg]

True, Trump could pardon himself for federal crimes but not state crimes like his 34 convictions for fraud in New York. On Day One of a Tump presidency we can assume he would dismiss prosecutor Jack Smith and all his federal problems would go away. If Trump loses Smith will be going hard after the documents case which is potentally the most serious. Ignore the talk about whether the documents were classified or not, that's irrelevant. Trump would be facing espionage charges. Which is why he is running. He isn't running to be President. He's running to stay out of prison.

I don't believe a president can self pardon, as they would be in Essence sitting in judgement over themselves. That would not stop him trying of course.

[pritch]

I don't believe a president can self pardon, as they would be in Essence sitting in judgement over themselves. That would not stop him trying of course.

Online podcasts containing discussion among lawyers indicate the pardoning rights available to a president are very broad. There is nothing to say he can't pardon himself. As you point out there are reasons it should not be done, and normally it wouldn't, but this is Trump. Presidents are not supposed to sell pardons either but...

[Pursang]

Been reported that the secret service who provide protection have been working out how to do it.

I suspect it would involve a lot of zoom calls - and a secure courier for documents.

If of course, he wins.

If I recall correctly....provision of Secret Service protection to a former president is an Executive function, at the discretion of the sitting President!

[Pursang]

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In the Interest of Support and Inclusion! R.U.OK?

https://leavingmaga.org/

[1/32 man]

I have bought in three weeks worth of popcorn, just to be on the safe side.

Will it be enough? Should I have also laid in some more water and food?

[pritch]

Trump's campaign has apparently handed their ground game to the Musk Political Action Committee. It seems though that the Musk PAC is riven by corruption; people claiming payment for work they haven't done. Also Trump is speaking in some odd places. States that are not critical to the outcome.

Last night I heard that a poll gave Iowa to Harris by 47 to 44. Previously it would have been considered good if Harris only lost by 10. That poll is normally one of the most accurate in the US and has only had a single exception where they got it significantly wrong. I was slightly surprised to hear that reported on the news here this morning. It's possible that some MAGA are finally realising their emperor has no clothes. They won't vote for Harris they'll just stay home. Their wives might not though.

Trump is playing to diminishing crowd sizes he reminds me of the Bread song, "The Guitarman."

The lights begin to flicker and the sound is getting dim
the voice begins to falter and the crowds are getting thin
but he never seems to notice
he's just got to find another place to play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SvWlFf9TUc

[Grumph]

I'm starting to suspect he's going to lose - bigly. And ugly.

Once the reality sinks into the GOP - such as it is now - there's going to be another night of the long knives play out.

Popcorn shares could be a good buy.