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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Why? He has taken multi million dollar bribes. Corruption established. If the US justice system was not a banana republic, the guy would not even be on the bench.
    Has he - here is the legal definition:

    Bribery is defined generally as corrupt solicitation, acceptance, or transfer of value in exchange for official action.

    Proof of bribery requires demonstrating a “quid pro quo” relationship in which the recipient directly alters behavior in exchange for the gift.
    I have highlighted the key part, where despite all the back-and-forth on this, you have yet to provide proof if it.

    Now - I want to put something to you on this - If, in 30 years, Clarence has not ruled against the Constitution (as it was written) - and a lot of his decisions have been to undo previous decisions and rulings:

    What does that tell you about the previous Supreme Courts

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Sounds like capitalism to me, you should look into that? Those fake bitches be gaslighting you with their fake Marxism. Perhaps they turned to capitalism because they are too fat to get under your bed?
    No, it sounds like every inner-party of every attempt at Communism throughout history.

    So - it sounds like Peak Marxism to me. Because they did what every other Marxist did, ever.

    (Funny that...)

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Woah, an upgrade from banana republic to kangaroo court, this is serious. And this trump is so special he should be able to pick the state he gets tried in? Desperate stuff dude, desperate stuff
    Not at all, there is a very long and well established legal tradition of trying people in different locations if an unbiased Jury could not be sought.

    Discussed here

    The moment they had to reclassify a misdemenor with an expired statute of limitations to a Felony (via the way of in pursuit of a crime) but the jury was not unanimous on what the supposed Crime that it was in pursuit of was - Yes, it was a Kangaroo Court:

    I am certain he is guilty, Your honor, I do not know of what, but I am certain he is guilty of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Has he - here is the legal definition:



    I have highlighted the key part, where despite all the back-and-forth on this, you have yet to provide proof if it.

    So why do they need to even report "gifts" if accepting millions is all good? Could it be anti corruption rules?


    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    No, it sounds like every inner-party of every attempt at Communism throughout history.
    Did it work, is the usa now a marxist nation?


    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    The moment they had to reclassify a misdemenor with an expired statute of limitations to a Felony (via the way of in pursuit of a crime) but the jury was not unanimous on what the supposed Crime that it was in pursuit of was - Yes, it was a Kangaroo Court.
    It is almost like they ignored your legal advice.
    BTW, trump was unanimously found quilty by a jury of his peers and trump offered Zero evidence to show his innocence in the trial.

    Off to jail for you trumpy, and so richly deserved too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Ahhh, but Harlan is that special rare kind of billionaire that invests millions of dollars and time into his pocket judge with no intention of a return on his investment. Sounds totally reasonable and legit
    Yeah, the investment might not pay off. A judge having a financial relationship with a billionaire would recuse himself from any case involving one of the billionaire's companies. Wouldn't he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Yeah, the investment might not pay off. A judge having a financial relationship with a billionaire would recuse himself from any case involving one of the billionaire's companies. Wouldn't he?
    I'm sure he would. Also as a judge that we are told is so scholarly he never makes an incorrect ruling, surely he would know to report gifts, did he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    So why do they need to even report "gifts" if accepting millions is all good? Could it be anti corruption rules?
    Perhaps so their actions can be scrutinized.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Did it work, is the usa now a marxist nation?
    BLM is a Marxist organization, operating exactly the way every Marxist entity (Nation or otherwise) operates.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    It is almost like they ignored your legal advice.
    BTW, trump was unanimously found quilty by a jury of his peers and trump offered Zero evidence to show his innocence in the trial.
    Yes, almost like they ignored the law... Like a Banana republic operating a Kangaroo Court.

    And yes, the Jury was unanimous that it was in the commission of a Crime - Can you advise exactly which Crime it was he was supposed to have done it in aid of.

    The Jury was unable to agree on it - which, I dont know about you, would seem to be a pretty key pre-requisite for doing something in aid of a Crime that you prove beyond a reasonable doubt which crime it was in aid of.

    Seems to me that if they cant agree on which Crime it was, there is reasonable doubt and the whole thing should have been dismissed. Only happened in a Blue state though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    I'm sure he would. Also as a judge that we are told is so scholarly he never makes an incorrect ruling, surely he would know to report gifts, did he?
    Walk away from engaging with the right wing troll.

    You're just giving it oxygen.

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    Trump claims he spoke with Putin and asked hm not to escalate the situation in Ukraine.

    Meanwhile in Moscow Kremlin sources say the conversation never happened. Russian TV shows Malania's old "modelling" pics.

    This creates a conundrum. Two of the world's biggest bullshitters. Who to believe?
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    I was lucky to go through my parents separation at an age (around 10yrs old) that I could see the lies both parties told to justify their position on why I should live with them and not the other (my siblings were 6, 8 and 10yrs older). Some of my family were in my fathers camp, some in my mothers. Each camp believed in their cause and refused to see the others as it would be a sign of weakness. I'm just glad the media weren't reporting on it, telling me what they wanted me to hear.

    Both Putin and Trump have their reasons for lying. Unfortunately unlike my situation, none of us get first hand experience or knowledge, we just have to rely on the biggest manipulators version of lies, half-truths, and the occasional nugget of truth. Life was simpler as a 10yr old lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    I was lucky to go through my parents separation at an age (around 10yrs old) that I could see the lies both parties told to justify their position on why I should live with them and not the other (my siblings were 6, 8 and 10yrs older). Some of my family were in my fathers camp, some in my mothers. Each camp believed in their cause and refused to see the others as it would be a sign of weakness. I'm just glad the media weren't reporting on it, telling me what they wanted me to hear.

    Both Putin and Trump have their reasons for lying. Unfortunately unlike my situation, none of us get first hand experience or knowledge, we just have to rely on the biggest manipulators version of lies, half-truths, and the occasional nugget of truth. Life was simpler as a 10yr old lol.
    I think there is one thing we can all agree on:

    Melania is pretty damn tasty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    I think there is one thing we can all agree on:

    I certainly can!

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    Trump has announced that he intends to appoint FOX "News" anchor Pete Hegseth Secretary of Defence. It's not as bad as it sounds. Hegseth is MAGA but has degrees from Princeton and Harvard. While he served in the National guard he had postings to Guantanamo Bay, Iraq, Afghanistan, and was twice decorated. He is currently a major in the Reserves. That might need to change?



    Update: Having just seen a couple of clips featuring Hegseths views on hygiene I have to temper my qualified enthusiasm for his appointment as Defence Secretary. He claims he has not washed his hands in ten years. He showers infrequently and doesn't wash his feet. This grants him immunity from diseases apparently.

    It could've been worse. Trump might have made him Secretary of Health.
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    Loving seeing the amount of diverse support for trump in this recent election.

    Harris won woman by only 10 points, compared to her predecessors Biden at 15 and Hillary at 13.

    Specifically, with Latino woman, 24 points compared to Hillary’s 44 points in 2016.

    While Trump significantly increased his young woman vote (ages 18 to 29) from 33% in 2020 to 40%.

    And won over Latino men by 10 points.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-women-voters

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    TDL seem to have wormed his way out of accepting any point made by anyone....reminds me of someone.


    I am willing to wait and see how all this pans out....with rights comes responsibility and drumpf has never been good at that.
    "I didn't start it, I hardly know her, I hardly know him etc etc"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1/32 man View Post
    TDL seem to have wormed his way out of accepting any point made by anyone....reminds me of someone.
    Not at all - I set a pretty low standard of evidence required for a certain claim. In case you missed it - to call Clarence Thomas corrupt, all I need is a single opinion, in 30 plus years of jurisprudence where he has ruled against the constitution in favor of his benefactors.

    And to date - such a piece of evidence has not been produced.

    As for the Trump Kangaroo trial - I will ask you - in order to upgrade the misdemeanor (that had passed the statute of limitations) to a Felony (and bypass that) - the misfilling of money had to be in aid of a Crime.

    It seems to me (and large swathes of the legal community who are not partisan) that in order to prove the charge in aid of a crime that the prosecution must be able to demonstrate which crime it was done in aid of beyond all reasonable doubt.

    Since the Jury could not agree on this point, their verdict of guilty makes no sense. Almost like they didn't care what the Law said and were determined to find him guilty at any cost....

    Now - which Political movement was famous for using the courts and the law to go after their political opponents...

    Quote Originally Posted by 1/32 man View Post
    I am willing to wait and see how all this pans out....with rights comes responsibility and drumpf has never been good at that.
    "I didn't start it, I hardly know her, I hardly know him etc etc"
    Well, since Trump can't run for another term, My Hope is that he guts the bloated American federal government with avengence.

    There is a Meme going around (and petitions) to make Brandon Herrera the head of the ATF - this is the kind of energy I want to see.
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    Ha Trump has made Musk along with former GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy head of DOGE, an obvious play on Musk's favourite cryptocoin. The Department Of Government Efficiency is not a government department as the name would suggest but rather they will work outside of the government advising the White House on spending issues.

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