Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[husaberg]

Yes it does - given the size and energy output from the sun, 93 million miles is about the right distance for us on earth, which would make an earth-centric day closer to 5-6 (i guess) months (or something, I am not an astronomer nor a mathematician) but yes it would make a difference

Oh how i enjoy it when people attempt to try to use the likes of Galileo being persecuted, to suggest some prejudice against new scientific thoughts.
When it was clearly persecution of a scientist by people with no scientific backup to support what was "their belief"

Conspiracy theorist are just the latest religious zealots. They are being manipulated by those that seek to profit from the story they are selling them.
Conspiracy theorists are not being persecuted because they have beliefs, they get derided because they spread their stupid theories as being facts.

[TheDemonLord]

Yes it does - given the size and energy output from the sun, 93 million miles is about the right distance for us on earth, which would make an earth-centric day closer to 5-6 (i guess) months (or something, I am not an astronomer nor a mathematician) but yes it would make a difference

Which is to the miss the point:

If you believe that the earth is the centre of the Universe - does that have any meaningful impact on your life?

[TheDemonLord]

Oh how i enjoy it when people attempt to try to use the likes of Galileo being persecuted to suggest some prejudice sort of previous action against new scientific thoughts.

Would you like to try again and make that point in English?

However - even if I unscramble that sentence, you miss the point I am making.

When it was clearly persecution of a scientist by people with no scientific backup to support what was "their belief"

Hold up there buddy - lets look at some of the people who were critical of Galileo in his time:

Christoph Scheiner, Astronomer and Physicist.
Tycho Brahe, the greatest pre-telescope Astronomer
Christoph Grienberger - Astronomer

The notion that the people who were persecuting him, were not (for their time, at least) well educated and learned is dishonest.

Conspiracy theorist are just the latest religious zealots. They are being manipulated by those that seek to profit from the story they are selling them.
Conspiracy theorists are not being persecuted because they have beliefs, they get derided because they spread their stupid theories as being facts.

I agree there is an element of Religious fervor in Conspiracy theorists - but the notion that they do so for Profit is not as clear cut. My observation is that whilst there are some who are Grifters, the majority do seem to genuinely believe what they say.

As for Persecution though - Unfortunately Stalinda and her 'two-tier society' is a perfect example that yes, people who hold unorthodox views that pose no risk to others (afterall, the Vaccine did not stop transmission, if you recall) were persecuted by the state. Not just in NZ, but in Canada and other places.

[R650R]

It seems the Big Bang theory is not well named and there is no centre???

Cut n paste from somewhere scientific
“As counterintuitive as it may seem, the universe has no center, and it has no boundary.

The idea of a Big Bang acting like a giant fireworks explosion hurtling matter and energy outward is pervasive, but misleading. As bizarre as it sounds, it wasn’t “stuff” that exploded outward, it was space itself! In essence, the Big Bang happened everywhere. Since the time of Einstein, it has been known that space is not simply a backdrop in which we move, but an actual thing that can be measured. It has shape, it can be bent, and it can expand.

If this sounds nonsensical, think of the surface of a balloon expanding into three-dimensional space. A two-dimensional creature confined to the surface of the balloon could never find the center, because the center is located in 3D space, and not in the 2D space in which the creature lives. We are 3D creatures stuck in a universe with at least four dimensions, so we cannot see the center of our universe. In fact, there’s no reason why there has to even be a center anywhere.”

[1/32 man]

So some of the same members arguing backwards and forwards....dont get vaccinated then, do get vaccinated then.

Until some bad germs hit you you can talk all you like....yes, talk, type write a few words but there are some here just trying to push there own nonsense.
Me included.
I see one person say this thread has devolved into a time waster and is dropping out. Me? I'm off to my love shack for some RnR.

[Kb2020dope]

the Stats I used are the medical stats , the same stats you yourself claimed was proof that the COVID vaccine had this massive effect of ED admissions.
Now as I have shown they clearly didnt at at agree with your assertion. It's not my opinion or the media, its not a lack of understanding or media bias it's a simple irrefutable fact. Your claims are utterly baseless , they are totally without merit.
Now if you want to stomp around the chess board like demented pigeon claiming a troll win, you go for it.

Hey champ,

Look, I think you are a bit of a lost cause. If you think everything mainstream media says is 100% correct then we should stop our conversation. Put me on your ignore list bud.

I no longer respect your opinion. If you can take a step back and look at both sides with an open mind then I may respect your opinion again, even if it is different to mine.

The ball is in your court, lets see if you can regain my respect.

All the best

[Kb2020dope]

God knows the mainstream media is not perfect, far from it. It is vastly better tha the alternative though. There is outrageous crap posted on the Internet by alternative media and people believe it. I recently saw someone claim that in Australia there were hundreds of thousands of missing children. You'd think somebody would've noticed.

There is the current hysteria about drones in the US with politicians wanting them shot down, whatever they are.

Alternative media gives us forest fires started by Jewish lasers fired from outer space. Mainstream media is more reliable than that.

Hey mate,

Very good comment! I agree with most of what you have stated.

Mainstream media is far from perfect! However I must admit that alternative is all over the show. It is very easy for the crazy conspiracy theorists to hijack alternative media.

I guess my stance is i would like everyone to do a little bit of research before getting boosters. At the end of the day we all have a choice.

[Kb2020dope]

I got sick in Thailand and didnt enjoy the spewing, wretching and pooing so before my next trip to Asia I got all the vaccinations my Doctor suggested...
I enjoyed my journey and didnt get sick at all.

I am a believer in science and vaccinations.

Hey bud,

I didn't realise they had a vaccine yet. Have fun in Asia and I hope you get no serious side effects from your monkeypox vaccine.

S̄wạs̄dī

[Dean]

Would you like to try again and make that point in English?

However - even if I unscramble that sentence, you miss the point I am making.



Hold up there buddy - lets look at some of the people who were critical of Galileo in his time:

Christoph Scheiner, Astronomer and Physicist.
Tycho Brahe, the greatest pre-telescope Astronomer
Christoph Grienberger - Astronomer

The notion that the people who were persecuting him, were not (for their time, at least) well educated and learned is dishonest.



I agree there is an element of Religious fervor in Conspiracy theorists - but the notion that they do so for Profit is not as clear cut. My observation is that whilst there are some who are Grifters, the majority do seem to genuinely believe what they say.

As for Persecution though - Unfortunately Stalinda and her 'two-tier society' is a perfect example that yes, people who hold unorthodox views that pose no risk to others (afterall, the Vaccine did not stop transmission, if you recall) were persecuted by the state. Not just in NZ, but in Canada and other places.

Don’t bother with the troll mate, I know you’re a man of principle - the avatar/signature/profile picture tells you everything you need to know. You understand.

[F5 Dave]

Ohh. Thinking of getting vaccination.

Yes.

Because I'm not as fucking stupid as you.

Jesus fuling Christ.

In the arse.

Christ taking it in the arse.

Own. Oww. Ouch. .

BIG penis in his arse.

Ow ow ouch.

[1/32 man]

Hey bud,

I didn't realise they had a vaccine yet. Have fun in Asia and I hope you get no serious side effects from your monkeypox vaccine.

S̄wạs̄dī

Dope you seem to have a problem with tenses. My two trips I wrote about were in the past.
Why you so nasty?

Have you travelled internationally?

Ka.

[TheDemonLord]

Take it slut. Go on you dirty bitch.

Take it in the arse slut.
Jesus.

Trite and unoriginal - 2 out of 10 for degredation.

[TheDemonLord]

Dope you seem to have a problem with tenses. My two trips I wrote about were in the past.
Why you so nasty?

Have you travelled internationally?

Ka.

Did you know you that everything you do whilst camping is now in history....


its because of past tents.

[pritch]

The fifth horseman. I've posted this before but it fits here.

[R650R]

The fifth horseman. I've posted this before but it fits here.

Looks like Independent media live streaming the apocalypse in what would be the worlds last I told you I was right moment haha.

Nice to see you’ve been keeping up with legends of the bible at this holy time of the year.

“The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse[1] are figures in the Book of Revelation in the New Testament of the Bible, a piece of apocalypse literature attributed to John of Patmos, and generally regarded as dating to about AD 95. Similar allusions are contained in the Old Testament books of Ezekiel and Zechariah, written about six centuries prior. Though the text only provides a name for the fourth horseman, subsequent commentary often identifies them as personifications of Pestilence (Zelos/Zelus), War (Ares/Mars), Famine (Limos/Fames), and Death (Thanatos/Mors or Moros/Fatum).

Revelation 6 tells of a book or scroll in God's right hand that is sealed with seven seals. The Lamb of God/Lion of Judah opens the first four of the seven seals, which summons four beings that ride out on white, red, black, and pale horses. All of the horsemen save for Death are portrayed as being human in appearance.
In John's revelation the first horseman rides a white horse, carries a bow, and is given a crown as a figure of conquest,[2][3] perhaps invoking pestilence, or the Antichrist. The second carries a sword and rides a red horse as the creator of (civil) war, conflict, and strife.[4] The third, a food merchant, rides a black horse symbolizing famine and carries the scales.[5] The fourth and final horse is pale, upon it rides Death, accompanied by Hades.[6] "They were given authority over a quarter of the Earth, to kill with sword, famine and plague, and by means of the beasts of the Earth."[7]
Christianity typically interprets the Four Horsemen as a vision of harbingers of the Last Judgment, setting a divine end-time upon the world.[8][9]“

Merry Xmas and happy new year all.