Unmasking Elon Musk

[sugilite:Me]

I very much doubt he will care.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3e44ge0xnwo

[1/32 man]

Oh shit....I said too much!!!~!

[pritch]

I very much doubt he will care.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3e44ge0xnwo

I'm startled that the Royal Society would even thought Musk suitable for a fellowship in the first place. He's not a scientist. He didn't design a Tesla or a Space X rocket. The Royal Society needs to sharpen up. Unless they were just looking for some cheap publicity in which case they've achieved their aim. At the expense of the Society's reputation to a degree.

[Laava]

I very much doubt he will care.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3e44ge0xnwo

He is very thin skinned remember? He will have a little tantrum I am picking just from the letter.

[TheDemonLord]

I'm startled that the Royal Society would even thought Musk suitable for a fellowship in the first place. He's not a scientist. He didn't design a Tesla or a Space X rocket. The Royal Society needs to sharpen up. Unless they were just looking for some cheap publicity in which case they've achieved their aim. At the expense of the Society's reputation to a degree.

But he did help make Electric cars a practical reality. Which would certainly be qualifying.

[neels]

But he did help make Electric cars a practical reality. Which would certainly be qualifying.

You're overlooking a great deal of electric car history with that statement, and in particular the Nissan Leaf which predates and outnumbers anything practical produced by Tesla.

What he did do initially was produce expensive EVs that appealed to people who consider wank factor in their car purchasing decision.

[TheDemonLord]

You're overlooking a great deal of electric car history with that statement, and in particular the Nissan Leaf which predates and outnumbers anything practical produced by Tesla.

I saw Tesla recharging stations before I saw Nissan recharging stations and that was a key impediment to the mass adoption of the Electric vehicle: The recharge infrastructure.

I also want to pull you up on your numbers - the Tesla Model 3 surpassed the Nissan Leaf in terms of sales in 2020.

What he did do initially was produce expensive EVs that appealed to people who consider wank factor in their car purchasing decision.

As much as I am loathe to say this - but the people who consider Wank Factor tend to also be people with sufficient clout with the right groups to get things like Recharging stations built.

[sugilite:Me]

Wow, To think I witnessed a Nissan Leaf being charged up way out in the boondocks at the Karamea 4 Square on the South Islands West Coast in 2017.
It was evidently quite an incredible and rare sight to see the Nissan charging up while somehow being connected to something other than the never seen Nissan charger.
I never realized just how blessed I was to have seen such a miracle

[sugilite:Me]

So lets see - 18,917 total teslas running around - all models combined

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Vs 24,409 total nissan leafs



Gosh, that is a lot of teslas, where are and how many tesla chargers are there?



And now the non tesla chargers......



My conclusion from that is there would be very few bodies in nz graveyards of leaf drivers that died from range anxiety

Oh look, a random steam roller

[TheDemonLord]

Wow, To think I witnessed a Nissan Leaf being charged up way out in the boondocks at the Karamea 4 Square on the South Islands West Coast in 2017.
It was evidently quite an incredible and rare sight to see the Nissan charging up while somehow being connected to something other than the never seen Nissan charger.
I never realized just how blessed I was to have seen such a miracle

Like it or not, Tesla was pivotal in pushing Electric cars as a full viable alternative to a Petrol car. The Leaf has a range of about 200 km, whereas the Model S has a range between 2-3 times that (nearer an equivalent to a full tank of fuel).

[neels]

I also want to pull you up on your numbers - the Tesla Model 3 surpassed the Nissan Leaf in terms of sales in 2020.

I'll take your word for it, and not surprising really.

Tesla have pulled off the ideal marketing strategy of creating a brand image, then bringing in cheaper lines for people who want to jump on that bandwagon. That's why someone who's bought a Tesla Model 3 will tell you they've bought a Tesla, whereas someone who's bought a Toyota Corolla will tell you they've bought a Corolla.

[sugilite:Me]

I salute the 10 cars that now have greater ranges than tesla, sheesh for clearly such an important metric the once formidable tesla has now been reduced to an also ran. What happened? Maybe the boss got a bit distracted of late?

[sugilite:Me]

I'll take your word for it, and not surprising really.

Tesla have pulled off the ideal marketing strategy of creating a brand image, then bringing in cheaper lines for people who want to jump on that bandwagon. That's why someone who's bought a Tesla Model 3 will tell you they've bought a Tesla, whereas someone who's bought a Toyota Corolla will tell you they've bought a Corolla.

In late 24 Musk threw that strategy in the toilet by implementing an over the air update uninstalling the virtue signalling module. This had the diasatrous consequence for tesla sales as the update also activated the ejection seats on all the lefties that purchased them.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/tesl...ing-early-2025

[neels]

The Leaf has a range of about 200 km, whereas the Model S has a range between 2-3 times that (nearer an equivalent to a full tank of fuel).

In the marketing hype maybe, in the real world maybe 1.5 times if you're lucky, if you're comparing same MY cars.

Over time the range of EVs has increased to a more usable level, although still unlikely to get you from Nelson to Christchurch without at least one stop, which most ICE cars will easily do on a full tank of fuel.

But yes, Tesla were somewhat instrumental in moving the perception of EVs from the second car 'shopping basket' (where the likes of the Nissan Leaf are aimed) to the full range of normal car usage.

[TheDemonLord]

In the marketing hype maybe, in the real world maybe 1.5 times if you're lucky, if you're comparing same MY cars.

Over time the range of EVs has increased to a more usable level, although still unlikely to get you from Nelson to Christchurch without at least one stop, which most ICE cars will easily do on a full tank of fuel.

But yes, Tesla were somewhat instrumental in moving the perception of EVs from the second car 'shopping basket' (where the likes of the Nissan Leaf are aimed) to the full range of normal car usage.

I took both figures from marketing hype

But yes - the last part is essentially my point. Probably a better way of articulating it.